g major and ecstasy?

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  1. mr breaker

    mr breaker Member

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    I have a ecstasy classic and I am looking to get an effects unit to use with it. I've been looking at the g major, and it looks like it'll fit my needs and price range.

    Does anyone know what else I would need to be able to create combinations of channels and effects and then switch between them via footswitch?

    I'm guessing some sort of MIDI footcontroller and special cable to connect to the amp...but I don't know a thing about it.


    If anyone has a similiar setup or any advice, it would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. devbro

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    I had a G-major and I didn't care for it. It did have a built in tuner which was nice but most of the effects were thin. If you're dead set on a rack unit and you're cash constrained, look around for a used Rocktron Replifex ($250.00).

    Whatever you choose you'll need a midi foot controller. Again, if you're cash constrained take a look at the Rocktron Midimate. It's a pretty decent controller at a reasonable price ($150.00) and will even send midi cc messages. Don't get sucked into the Behringer - it's a pile.

    You'll then need a way to swith amp channels from an incomming midi signal. Some effect units have 1/4 inch jacks in the back that can be assigned to switch amp channels. Both the G-major and Replifex have this feature. If you have more than 2 channels (I think the Extacy has 3) then you'll need somthing like an Axess CFX-4 to translate the incomming midi mesages to 1/4 inch output jacks so you can switch your amp. I think these have been discontinued but you can find them used for about $100.00.

    This all probably sounds more complicated than it is. It's really quite simple. You can find some excellent advise at http://www.hugeracksinc.com These guys are rack monsters.
     
  3. gulliver

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    The G-Major is awesome. If you're looking for more of a phat vintage sound, rack gear will sound "thin" and will not be for you. I think of them as more of a pure, modern effect. I'm selling mine as I only used the delay and I'm going with an H&K Replex for that old school phat tone.

    Here is a spreadsheet I put together that has all of the setup options. The setup I have in there allows you to turn each effect, within each of the 100 patches, on or off independently...

    http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeoicc8/gmajor/

    Hook up is easy, two MIDI cables to a foot controller, my above setup, and you're good to go. Make a minor change and save it to another patch ... and so on.

    Here is my local ad for mine, which shows pictures of the controller.

    (Spam alert)

    T.C. Electronics G-Major, the standard for modern effects processors. In great shape; it has a couple of scratches on the top from a tight rack fit, but still has the clear plastic packing tape over the screen. Has the latest software, and is a later serial number ... has had none of the problems experienced by earlier models. Comes with the ART Ultrafoot pedal and two MIDI cables ... ready to go. Below there is a link for an Excel spreadsheet I put together which is a great setup for the G-Major ... $400. Pictures...
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    http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeoicc8/gmajor/
     
  4. mr breaker

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    I was looking at the manuals for the g major and repliflex, and it looks like you can get them to control more than two channels. This link is the schematic for creating a cable for the three channel TSL:

    http://training.tcelectronic.tc/Files/Training/TCSI/images/answers/768/MarshallTSL_GMajor2.pdf


    Does anyone know if something like this is possible with the ecstasy? It would be great if I didn't have to deal with another piece of equipment just to switch channels. Even if I could control the three channels and a boost, that's all I would need.
     
  5. devbro

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    Unfortunately, the diagram you referenced is for converting the 1/4 inch G-major output to a midi (DIN) plug used to control a Marshall. This won't work in your case because unless I'm mistaken, the Extacy uses 1/4 inch plugs to control channel switching.

    I went down this path with a Mesa Mark IV and G-major long ago and out of frustration, ended up buying a CFX-4 and a Midimate. I subsequently replaced the Midimate with an All Acess and the Mark IV with a Road King but the CFX-4 remained.

    Check these links out:

    Midimate
    CFX-4
     
  6. mr breaker

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    I really don't know much about the channel switching and cables...but my ecstasy's footswitch has a 7-pin connector.
     
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    I use the XTC with a rack device.

    Yes, you need an Axess Electronics AC8 with a custom cable for the XTC to control all XTC footswitchable functions through your MIDI controller.

    I also owned the G-Major but didn't like the AD/DA converters in the end. And because the G-Major kinda forces you to use the the fx loop in series, your sound WILL be affected.

    I use a Rocktron Intelliverb, and a Midimate, and I'm very happy with it. If you want more fx than the verb offers, then try a Rocktron Replifex or Xpression.
     
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    I have the "Bogner Medusa Cable" you need for this. I dont use it so maybe we can work something out. Shoot me an e mail. Good luck!
     
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    Don't want to ruin your spam, but I wonder why he needs / how he should use the Medusa in a G-Major / XTC setup?
     
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    I own a 101B and use a Axxess electronics AC8/30ft cable and MFC5 midi controller. It's a awesome rig!

    I had used a Gmajor for a bit, it really was not my thing. One of my co-workers loves his G-Major and is using the unit to it's fullest potential.

    The G-major takes some tweaking, I say go for it!
     
  12. mr breaker

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    Thanks for all the replies. Very helpful info.

    I'm not dead set on the gmajor...just one of the units I'm looking at.

    Are there any effect units out there that can control amp switching? It would great if I didn't have to lug around another peice of equipment...ie an AC8.


    If I could just have the effects unit on top of my amp, and one cable going out to a midi foot controller, that would be sweet.
     
  13. JP

    JP Guitarist of Mojo Radio

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    The AC8 is small and you could wire it in your rack or house it
    on the back of the Bogner. Mario can custom make any length cable you will need to go from the AC8 into your Bogner.

    I could not find another option to controll the Bogner with ?
    I'll bet the Medusa snake goes from 1/4 TRS to one 8 pin XLR connector. Go with the AC8. it's worth the money and built like a tank.
     
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    Oh, one bad thing about the G-Major and other devices with the same ins and outs, they don't play well with certain effects loops. Mine doesn't work well at all with my JCM800 ... which runs at super low levels.

    Just an FYI.
     

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