Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by memberzonly, Feb 14, 2012.
G12H30 or Greenback (Celestion branded) - Which is brighter?
Greenback has less low end so it may seem brighter. Greenback is definitely less efficient.
Define the term, "bright". Greenback is more reedy sounding and as riffmeister points out, has less low end.
All in all, I'd vote for the G12H30 being brighter. It just has a more brilliant sound - and packs some low end punch.
DISCLAIMER: Give either speaker plenty of loud break-in time. At first, the greenback is going to sound kind of card-board-stiff like and the G12H30 is going to sound thin and 1-dimensional. Both make mighty fine speakers once broken in.
Had a Dr Z cab with both. I wouldn't call a Greenback bright. G12H30 was def the brighter speaker of the two.
I have a Vox 2x12 with G12H's and they're def brighter than my 2x12 greenbacks
Definitely G12H30s. Greenbacks are very warm with a bit of sizzle on top.
The G12H30 I had (labeled 70th anniversary)
I never had a real Greenback, but I've had some Greenback-type speakers. The G12H30 (70th anniversary) speaker I had was both bassier and brighter than the Greenback-type speakers. It was too aggressively bright for me.
G12H30 is brighter than a Greenback.
G12H30 is definitely brighter than a Greenback!
G12H30 is definitely a scooped speaker.
I had a set of both. The Greenbacks had more mids and less bass. Overall, a more even sound but when pushed, broke up real smooth with nice harmonic content. The G12H30's had a stronger and fuller bass response with less mids, so the highs seemed more forward. With my Marshall head, I liked the Greenbacks for humbucker equipped guitars ( Les Paul, 335, PRS, etc. ) but for some reason, my strats sounded better with the G12H30's.
Yeah, I'd say the G12H30 is a brighter speaker but as mentioned, has more bottom end than a Greenback which might trick you into thinking the Greenback is brighter.
I like both in the same cab! Then you get everything. But yes the G12H is bigger and brighter then a greenback which is more mid range voiced and smoother.
The G12H30 Greenback is definitely brighter. It isn't scooped (it's your ears that may trick you into thinking it is), it's just that it's flatter and being more agressive than the G12M. However, and as mentioned, because it's flatter in response also delivers more low end.
Now obviously we're talking about the 75Hz/ lead cone versions of these two speakers.
I vote G12H30, with it's high peak ... but the Scumback H75 LHDC has a very similar voicing to the greenback RI, but has the H vibe for sure.
On a side note, if you're thinking about either a G12H or G12M speaker, go for Celestion's Heritage Series. Made in England to vintage specs.
Completely subjective to taste.
I've owned Heritage G12M's in two different 4x12 cabs, and I GREATLY prefer the tone and response of the current Made In China standard RI Greenback over the more expensive Made In England Heritage version.
The current MIC reissue Greenback is a GREAT sounding speaker IMO.
The G12H IS the Heritage version. G12H30, as in the OP, is the Anniversary series.
Sound is subjective to taste. But construction using the same equipment, methods and materials as vintage Celestions is not.
That said, I agree the latest MIC speakers sound very good. I still prefer the Heritage Series though.