Discussion in 'The Pub' started by NamaEnsou, Jan 21, 2019.
Mance Rayder noticed:
They mentioned it when they gave them to her as a gift back in season one and that they thought they were petrified.
Well there may be something in the way of a Valerian connection, and that's where the Targaryen's origin lies as well. Not to mention Valerian steel, one of the few materials capable of killing the white walkers...
Important to note that there was no mention of how many times she'd be pregnant, and death is a sure fire way of not having any more children...so, there's that...
They were given to her as a wedding gift when she married Khal Drogo, and were purported to be from Asshai, but now turned to stone. There's speculation that it took fresh blood, heat, and possibly Targaryen presence to make them hatch.
They had originally been stolen from Valeria ages ago, before the Targaryen's had even founded Dragonstone.
My impression is that he stopped being interesting when they reached the end of the material GRRM wrote. Ultimately, much of the writing since then just hasn't been as good.
Do we "know" this isn't Earth?
That would be cool!
Good point. If it is though, based on the Geography, it isn't on any timeline I know of. So its either way older than Babylon, or in the future, if on Earth. Anyway, it was just a small point that buys them leeway in historical correctness.
So I hate what the show runners have made Sansa. They let her get run over for years and then let her get smart and vengeful and now they’ve turned her into a one dimensional stereotypical bitch who hates everyone.
She's a protege of Cersei without any real depth. Honestly, I never liked her character much throughout the show, but she does seem worse. She seems to completely lack humility or empathy.
Could Cersi be pregnant by that young cousin she was bedding?
I wasn't a big fan of this episode, but this is correct it was a series of callbacks (many scenes at Winterfell were blocked and shot almost identically from the first episode) and foreshadowing...with reminders that every main character is involved in at least one 3 person relationship that could result in betraying or betrayal.
Apparently there was a scene cut to keep the episode under 60 minutes between "the Dragons aren't getting enough to eat" and "the dragon ride" where Jon Snow tells Daenerys that he can and should lead her and the dragons to his old hunting grounds where there would be plentiful game for the dragons to eat. The dragon ride scene to what seems like some random make out place makes a lot more sense in that context. There also a suggestion that it might be Bran warging into Drogon that causes Drogon to to give Jon the "back off" when he starts kissing Daenerys. Edit- This may explain why Bran is insistent that Sam tell Jon about his parents *now* when Sam is already visibly upset.
You mean the schtuuupid, schtuupid grrl has become wise (and deep)?
Daenerys technically was burned to death and resurrected twice as well. The fact the she, Jon Snow, and the Night King are the only ones that can ride dragons (who were technically dead as a species for centuries) is....interesting. Probably not a coincidence that the Iron Born repeated "what is dead may never die" multiple times in this episode.
Was about the fact that Sam realized at that moment that the House of Tarly was no more. When Sam joined the Nights Watch, he renounced his claims as heir of his house. Tyrion knew this and specifically stated to Daenerys that executing Lord Tarly and Dickon would destroy one of the oldest and strongest houses in the kingdoms as he tried and failed to convince her to take them prisoners instead.
Nah. She didn't die. She just has a +1 save on a d6 against fire spells.
I'd also say the dead may never die thing was mentioned because of theon wanting to kill the undead white walkers. Why Yara said 'but kill the bastards anyway'
There's been a couple of suggestions in the series that Gendry may be the first born child of King Robert and Circe who supposedly died as an infant.
Her full brother dying as expected when molten gold was poured on his head and her "half blood" nephew Jon Snow burning his hand badly when he first joins the Nights Watch suggest that Targeryans aren't necessarily naturally fireproof. There's a bunch of characters that are keenly aware that they're protected by and servants to various dieties...Daenerys is arrogant enough to have dismissed the possibility or to not even have considered it.
The dead may never die is what's repeated when the Iron Born are "baptized" by being held down and literally drown in the ocean before they appear to be resurrected by the Drown God. I took it as foreshadowing of the resurrected rather than the undead.