george l's ?

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by marcusprice, Sep 5, 2005.


  1. marcusprice

    marcusprice Member

    Messages:
    115
    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Location:
    new york city, ny
    i was about to buy a load of george l's for my pedal board but i just read in the velcroless thread that they arent very reliable.

    whats the verdict? to buy or not to buy?
    anyone want to sell me some?

    thanks!
     
  2. Loop-Master

    Loop-Master Member

    Messages:
    3,472
    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2005
    They are very reliable.
     
  3. Rollo Timbre

    Rollo Timbre Member

    Messages:
    375
    Joined:
    May 6, 2005
    Location:
    Kirkwood, IL
    I move my pedals around quite a bit, and sometimes the screw caps will loosen up on the George L's causing them to crap out. Some have suggested using lock-tite to avoid this problem.
     
  4. NyteOwl

    NyteOwl Member

    Messages:
    2,650
    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2003
    Location:
    Sunny South Florida - Hurricane Central
    I've never had a George L cable fail in the 2+ years I've been using them, both in short patch cable format on my pedal board and in longer lengths to run between guitar, pedalboard and amp.
     
  5. Moe45673

    Moe45673 Member

    Messages:
    5,327
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2005
    Location:
    Toronto, Canada
  6. gkelm

    gkelm Supporting Member

    Messages:
    3,451
    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2004
    Location:
    DFW, TX
    If they're usd on a board where pedals are fixed, you should have no (or very few) problems...the more you move them around, the more potential for trouble (i.e., loosening connections).
    Greg
     
  7. NuSkoolTone

    NuSkoolTone Member

    Messages:
    1,328
    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2005
    I've read that there were some problems considerin the plugs with the george l's system. So I bought the cable and soldered my own plugs. It works great. I did it on my bass (!) pedal board and I cannot hear a difference between going through the board and plugging straight in.

    I haven't done the guitar board yet, because I am still undecided on which pedals are making the cut.

    I plan to get Canare GS-6 based cables for Guitar to pedalboard and pedlaboard to amp cables. I Figure it will be a nice combination that should balance out well.
     
  8. D.G.

    D.G. Member

    Messages:
    646
    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2004
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    This is true only of the right-angle plugs. The straight plugs lock down quite tight and I've never had a problem with them. Of course, I only use the straight plugs on the guitar -> board cable and the board -> amp cable. On the board it's all right angle.
     
  9. royd

    royd Member

    Messages:
    1,992
    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2004
    Location:
    Santa Barbara, CA
    I hate the screw on ends and have always had them crap out at the most inopportune moments. I still have some of the cable in my pedal board but have soldered on switchcraft ends.
     
  10. devbro

    devbro Member

    Messages:
    1,128
    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2004
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    There's a technique to doing the right angle type that I have found failsafe.

    1. Insert the cable into the end
    2. Push it down while twisting it about 2 revolutions. This seems to help the center pin seat into the center of the cable better.
    3. Hold it firmly while bending the cable to a right angle through the slot.
    4. Screw the end on as tight as you can without tools.

    I've never had one crap out on me unexpectedly. :D
     
  11. cvansickle

    cvansickle Supporting Member

    Messages:
    10,754
    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2004
    Location:
    Atlanta, GA USA
    The only complaint I have with George L's is the size of the plugs, this and the fact that 99% of the pedal makers insist upon using side mounted jacks instead of top mounted (thank you, JangleBox!).

    If the plugs could only be half the size they are now, I could get at least one more pedal on my board!
     
  12. leofenderbender

    leofenderbender Supporting Member

    Messages:
    2,421
    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2004
    Location:
    Oregon
    I had a bit of trouble getting them to work early on when I didn't know how to assemble them. Once I followed the directions, never a failure for years...
     
  13. jdsgilmour

    jdsgilmour Suffering from chronic gearitis Gold Supporting Member

    Messages:
    202
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2004
    Location:
    Tejas
    I love my George Ls. The only problem I ever had was with the right angle connectors and the problem was me, not the cable. I was bending the cable at a right angle through the slot as I tightened the screw-on end cap. By doing this, the cap was piercing through the middle of the cable and not grounding correctly. The trick is to bend the cable as little as possible when screwing on the end cap. That way, it will only cut through the cable enough to ground it. I've never had the caps loosen on me. However, I leave them all plugged in on my pedal board and don't mess with them much.

    John
     
  14. slowburn

    slowburn Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,584
    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2005
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    I used georgels for like 6-7 yrs (the same cable), never had a cable fail once. however, I never gigged, did not have more than one or two pedals, and used only the straight plugs.
     
  15. Tim Bowen

    Tim Bowen Member

    Messages:
    2,428
    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2004
    Location:
    Atlanta, Georgia
    I've routed my boards with GL's right angle plugs since shortly after their inception, and have used them for hundreds of live jobs. During that time, I've had two cable failures, both of which were operator errors that were easily alleviated.

    For optimal stability, a friend of mine at another forum suggested dabbing a bit of Elmer's glue around the screw threads when assembling the cables. This works quite well, and if required, the bond can be easily loosened with a pair of pliars.
     
  16. marcusprice

    marcusprice Member

    Messages:
    115
    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Location:
    new york city, ny
    thanks, tim. that sounds like a good idea.
     
  17. Frethog

    Frethog Member

    Messages:
    1,333
    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2004
    Location:
    Portland, Or USA
    I tried to read the instructions first and gave up. I thought the instructions were weak. They should have separate instruction sheets for each type of plug.


    So thatÂ’s what I ended up doing :D Perfect. I made sure I tested each pedal individually as I went along. And I like the size of the plugs, they were smaller than most. That was a key selling point.
     

Share This Page