Getting a fat (Les Paul-ish) tone from my tele...

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  1. Davo17

    Davo17 Member

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    I dig this tone. When I hear the tone in this clip, I know its possible with a tele. Id like to know what ways there are to get such a tone, ideally with the gear I have. Please dont suggest I get a paul. :messedup

    What I have-Baja Tele, Marshall Class 5, Fender HRD, early 80's Randall RG-80, selection of pedals.

    What Id like is an approximation of this tone-
     
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    Its the guitar and the neck. Ash and a maple neck. I dont think quarter swan sounds as fat as flat. The neck is probably super thick. My nocaster sounds like that. Oh, and the nocaster type flat 50 style pickups.
     
  4. dcooper830

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    It's very easy in my opinion.

    Just crank up your amp and/or use a Tubescreamer ... and roll back your tone knob a little.
     
  5. bluesjuke

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    Using you tone control and balancing it best with your volume control goes a very long way.

    Turn you amp up and the guitar down.
     
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    I love the sound of Les Pauls, hate the feel. I've played the same Tele for 27+ years. Neck p/u (Bardens are best) , tone slightly rolled off, and crank the mids on your amp.
    Also, PLAY like you're on an LP!
     
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    Quoted for truth. Approach is a huge part of it, learning to pick in such a way as to not make a maple fretboard tele "snap" unless you want it to really improved my overall technique.
     
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    You can also try a four-way switch to put the pickups in series. Not exactly Les Paul territory, but thicker than the neck pickup alone. That plus judicious use of the tone knob and a OD pedal gets me close enough for my needs.
     
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    +1

    I do this with my teles and sometimes kick on a Marshall Bluesbreaker II pedal.
     
  10. magicaxeman

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    Just back of the volume a tad (if you dont have the treble mod fitted) and crank the class 5..

    I use mine through an eleven rack, plexi or Jtm 45, roll back the volume just a little to take the "sting" out of the tele bridge pup and add a little dark to the neck pup.
     
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    Plenty of fat tone with a side of gristle from my sweet ax (ash partscaster, maple neck, Naylor Railhammer pups). :)
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    Well, if you want that tone, you also need to inquire about the amp and overdrive/boost (Phil steps on some kind of pedal towards the beginning) that was being used in the clip. It sounds like an old Fender tweed amp cranked up, with a clean boost.

    It's probably the same amp seen here:
     
  13. Waxhead

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    You're chasing shadows Davo imo.

    First - that's a Youtube clip - if you were in the room when that clip was recorded it would not have sounded like that at all.
    And who knows what post recording EQing was done to beef it up - so forget that clip.... or any Youtube clips hehe

    2nd - I have never heard a fat Tele, or any single coil guitar.
    They do not do LP or Gretsch style fat unless you replace both PUPs with either Filtertrons or Humbuckers - and then whats the point of having a Tele anyway.
    They specialise in thinnish, spanky, twangy tones - excellent but different.

    There are other guitars that do LP tones, Tele tones & lots more with no mod'ing - they're called Gretsch with Filtertrons :)
     
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    Call Don Mare and ask him to listen to that clip. Then he will wind you the right set of pickups to get that tone. You need some higher output pickups. Ask him about the 0038 Broadcaster set. Get the great pickups then set your amp like others have suggested.

    Here is a link to Don's site.
    http://www.buckcannon.com/pussetsfortele.html
     
  15. Davo17

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    Hes got the same shirt, so I bet it is from the same day. Id have no idea who to contact about that amp, I wont be purchasing a vintage guitar from them anytime soon, and this is an older clip. Any ideas how I could find out.

    Upon reviewing the video, you can see a corner of the amp, its tweed, and when stepping on the pedal, there is little difference in eq, more in volume-which would be more consistent with a boost-good call.
     
  16. Davo17

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    Interesting, I wouldnt be surprised that there was significant eq involved, but the attack and voice still seems atypical anyway. I wouldnt recognize it as a tele if I heard it I dont think.

    Good to know about Filtertrons, that is something I will look into some day, perhaps in a fender.
     
  17. Davo17

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    Good to know, my tele has a fender broadcaster (9k, flat pole pieces) in the bridge. Its just plain awesome. When cranking an amp, I typically have the volume on that pup at around 7-8 which seems to have a cool effect on the dynamics of the guitar. Tone is usually at 6-7.

    Interesting thing about that clip, is states the output of the bridge was 7.4K. Im not sure if thats typical for a broadcaster but it sounds great to me.
     
  18. tjmicsak

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    I think everyone is missing the fact that the tone cap is huge. That will have a huge impact on the tone of the bridge even with the tone on 10.
    Likely that cap is .1mf. that tames the twang on the bridge. Fat.
     
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    That Phil X fellow playing that old Tele always looks like he's having way too much fun. I think I want his job!
     
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    A Baja can get you into that territory especially if you are playing it through a vintage Magnatone or the re-issue called Evil Robot.
     

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