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GGGOD vs Landgraff

drbob1

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There's been some debate here about how close the GGGOD gets to the Landgraff sound, with answers from "not at all" to 95% there. The reason I ask is because I picked up a GGGOD over Christmas and I'm being seriously underwhelmed by this pedal. Granted I haven't tried it with all my amps, but the Blond Bandmaster and the Vox AC30 really don't like it much. It's not a smooth as my TS808 or even an early TS9, and certainly not in the same league as the Klon. So here's the question: if I REALLY don't like the GGGOD, am I going to be seriously disappointed if I pony up $400 for the LDO?
 

burstone

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It's possible, however, there are many LDO owners here and other forums who would vouch for LDO's sound especially when matched with BF Fenders. I love mine through my BF Deluxe and BF Pro.
 

dankayaker

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If you like a smooth yet full higher gain TS type tone . . . I think you'll love the Landy. I only use it in the higher gain mode but there are two other modes that sound a bit different. If it's the mid-hump thing that you like, but want a more dynamic feel with a lot more gain . .the Landy will please you.
 

burstone

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My favorite setting right now for LDO (with les paul and BF Fenders) is the "Marshall setting" with the toggle switch in the upper position, which has less mid hump emphasis. With strats, I think I prefered the toggle switch in the down position with more mid hump.
Either way, it is the most organic, amp-like OD pedal I've played thus far.
 

jazzandmetal?

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my .02.....The GGGOD is what the landy would sound like if BOSS built it...and the 3 way switch on it is chintzy to say the least...not a bad sounding pedal, but no place near landy land.
 

Matt Gordon

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I have the GGG, and honestly the switch doesn't seem to do anything at all different to the gain or tone. For some reason it stopped working. I don't even use it. I liked it a lot when it worked, but it's nowhere near as warm and natural as my Burn Unit, and really dosen't work with an overdriven signal, at least not what I want. But I loved Muddy's clips, and much of the reason I purchased. Unfortunately it does nothing in my rig. :jo
 
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I think you just have to try it and see... After all the RAVE reviews I just had to try a Landy and I didn't like it. Not one bit. Far prefer my Timmy and Eternity... Different strokes!
 

This is the Edg

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While I have never tried a GGGOD, I do have a stable of OD/Distortion pedals including the LDO, Timmy, Marshall Guv'nor (Black), Fulldrive II, Tubescreamer (Potato Bug), OCD and the Zendrive which to compare. To my ears the Landy is the best of all of them. For reference, I have a SFTR (ultralinear 135W). Another amp might have completely different results

I prefer the switch in down position. My thoughts are that it has a harmonic richness and pleasant dynamic feel that is missing in my other pedals. The Zendrive also has a dynamic feel as well but has much lower gain. Here is my 2 cents on each pedal:

-LDO - My go to OD pedal *****
-Guv'nor - Sounds really close to a JCM 800 Marshall ****
-Fulldrive II - had mine for 9 years - I don't get what the buzz is about-*
-Timmy - Not impressed as an OD but great as a boost, great EQ **
-Tubescreamer - Cheap plastic but sounds very good ***
-OCD - like it much better than the FDII - crunchy ***
-Zendrive - Really nice as a low gain OD ****

I say try it for the trial period and either sell it or return it if it doesn't work for you.
This is the Edge
 

58lespaulman

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I tried both and will tell you they sound nothing alike. The Landgraff was better sounding over all, but I still got rid of it. I agree with (Fast Ricky Love) about the TIMMY blowing it away. They are both set up the same, but that where the simularities stop.
 

This is the Edg

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58lespaulman said:
I tried both and will tell you they sound nothing alike. The Landgraff was better sounding over all, but I still got rid of it. I agree with (Fast Ricky Love) about the TIMMY blowing it away. They are both set up the same, but that where the simularities stop.
Did you change the internal setting on the Timmy? I am not super impressed using it as a OD. I don't find the OD mode to be very pleasing to my ears. As a boost, with the drive way down, it is great and the EQ section is unique as well. I haven't opened it up and switched the internal jumpers. Perhaps I should give it a try.
 

BudLite

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58lespaulman said:
I tried both and will tell you they sound nothing alike. The Landgraff was better sounding over all, but I still got rid of it. I agree with (Fast Ricky Love) about the TIMMY blowing it away. They are both set up the same, but that where the simularities stop.
Thats quite a claim, the timmy blowing a LDO away....In my experience with owning both....w/ a strat through a BF Fender....The LDO sounds
better than a timmy...for me anyway.
 

Mark Kane

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I had both at the same time and thought they sounded almost identical exept the copy was noisier. I didn't try any different chips or anything in either.
 

58lespaulman

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Well, it is my opinion, I like transparent overdrive pedals..Well, if your turning the gain up on the TIMMY, you also have to turn the bass and treble up to at least match the gain. And this is because when the gain is turned up it adds b and T to the mix, so to make it sound good you have to cut those frequensies by turning the B and T up.. I keep my gain at noon, and bass and treble at about 1:00. I have open'd it up, but always go back to the original settings..
 

BudLite

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Thats cool 58LPman, I think the timmy is more transparent as well. It just doesn't get me as good a OD tone(say like L Carlton). Two different catagories to me. Right now Im using the Carb for the transparent type boost tones...Cool Pedal...
 

stucker

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Regarding the Timmy, if you flip both internal switches to the "compressed" mode you can definitely get a smoother overdrive sound that enters the mid-gain arena. Then, as 58lespaulman says you need to cut the bass and treble a bit to bring out the mids.

I can definitely approach some Larry Carlton tones with the Timmy but I doubt your going to get any Santana sounds unless you combine it with another boost or overdrive.
 

gkelm

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Interesting and diverse experiences (as usual! :)). I have a Landy and have been curious about the GGG, not enought to get one yet. As far as the Timmy, I think it's dissimilar enough from the Landy that I'd not compare the two, but can see how one might prefer one over the other.
Greg
 

asdf

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Old Timmy pedals are slightly different from a Tim, but Paul figured out the difference and now the Tim's first stage is exactly the same as the Timmy. The Timmy before was (to my ears) a little grainier sounding. I like both dipswitches down with an LM1458 opamp when using the Timmy as a clean boost, and asym clipping when using it as an overdrive. As far as landgraff vs. timmy, they are fairly different pedals. I don't like how a Tim or Timmy sounds with a BF fender- really not good at all; however, my main amp is more in the marshall 18 watt/vox ac15 vein and the Timmy is GREAT with that amp. The Landgraff sounds great with the fender amps I've played it through though, so whenever I play a deluxe rever the Landgraff is my go to pedal. I haven't gotten a chance to try the Landgraff with my main amp because it has been out of comission for the last month or so, but that will be the real test for the Landgraff. I haven't tried the GGG OD but I wouldn't be surprised if it's fairly close to the Landgraff. The Landgraff is just a TS808 with some mods. It is very closely based on a tubescreamer and the components changed are few, but they make it more versatile and enjoyable than a standard TS. The general guitar gadgets pedal I've seen are well constructed, but others seem to have different thoughts on that part. What is it that you don't like about the GGG OD? A tubescreamer, is a tubescreamer, is a tubescreamer. There are variations, and maybe the Landy with a tone kit will do it for you, but those pedals are still tubescreamers and will have similarities. You could just buy one though if you really think it'll be right and not be worried if it doesn't work out since the Landgraff sells for pretty nice chunks of money used.
Just my .02
 

gkelm

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asdf said:
Old Timmy pedals are slightly different from a Tim, but Paul figured out the difference and now the Tim's first stage is exactly the same as the Timmy.
Did you mean the other way around?
 




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