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Gibson '57 Classic pickups

Strat-O

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I have these in a 335 and they sound really tight and have very little character. Kind of like playing through a solid state amp. Not alot of sustain either.

Almost no detail, dynamics, depth, rawness or vibe. They are very clear though with a sort of bell like clarity. The low E is what I would call piano like. And, yes I have adjusted the pickup heights quite a bit.

Is this the way these are supposed to sound? I can't believe all the talk about 57 classics is based on this. Any feedback?
 

sqadan

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I replaced the original pups in my old Les Paul Classic with '57 Classics. I thought they were great sounding with a very round fat tone. I have been pondering replacing the Burstbuckers in my R7 with '57s as well...

Not sure what this issue is with yours... maybe they are just not a good match with your particular axe?
 

84Bravo

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Try adjusting the pole pieces. Look at a Strat vintage stagger to get an idea and see if adjusting the screws brings out more detail. You might be surprised. Everything now comes from Gibson screwed flat down into the pickup.
 
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Are these in a Gibson ES-335 or did you whip 'em in an Ibanez or something? 57 classics are excellent pickups. I play their predecessor, the Shaw PAF, in my ES-335 and they're anything but lifeless and dull.
 

Strat-O

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They're in a 335, you may have missed that in my original post. I'll adjust the pole pieces like someone said and see what happens.

They are fat and round sounding but they don't have any character beyond that. Must be an adjustment issue.

The guitar they are in is pretty resonant so I don't think that's it. The only thing unusual about the guitar is the string tension is a little tighter/stiffer than my other Gibsons. That could be contributing to the problem?
 

Veritas

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I've had these in a couple of different guitars, and in some guitars they sound great. In others, I've found them to be very congested and middy. Great pickups if they're matched up to the right guitar.
 

Blue4Now

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I also replaced the pickups in my LP Classic with the 57's and love em. Not at all how you describe them, for me that is.

I also have them in my ES333 and they are heaven in that guitar.
 
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84Bravo

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They're in a 335, you may have missed that in my original post. I'll adjust the pole pieces like someone said and see what happens.

They are fat and round sounding but they don't have any character beyond that. Must be an adjustment issue.

The guitar they are in is pretty resonant so I don't think that's it. The only thing unusual about the guitar is the string tension is a little tighter/stiffer than my other Gibsons. That could be contributing to the problem?
Very well could be. You probably need a set up. Adjust neck relief. Raise the tailpiece to relieve some of the tension; however, you will have to re-intonate if you muck with the tailpiece. It sounds as if the pickups are amplifying the tightness you decribe. Good luck.
 

Strat-O

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Very well could be. You probably need a set up. Adjust neck relief. Raise the tailpiece to relieve some of the tension; however, you will have to re-intonate if you muck with the tailpiece. It sounds as if the pickups are amplifying the tightness you decribe. Good luck.
I hear you, it just came from the shop and getting a new setup. Still could be the setup though.
 

Steven_K

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I'm finding the 57s a little too compressed sounding - they don't really breathe or respond well to picking dynamics. I have a pair of Sheptones I'm going to be putting in soon, so I'll have a point of comparison then.
 

keith_t4e

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I have them in a 335, two lp standards. They rock. The two standards have 57 classic+ models in the bridge. They fit the 335 very well as anything with higher output would feedback too much. They seem to fit well in the 61 SG as well. Something is not right. Maybe that set of pups or something because the 57 classics sound great. Most people like them.
 

Marty s Horne

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I have them in a semi-hollow Les Paul Elegant and really like them; very balanced through the lows, mids, and highs with a warm, fat, smooth tone.
 

Waxhead

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I luv the Classic 57's too.

Is it your guitar you find unimpressive :p
 
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I've got them in my Les Paul Custom and love them. I had them in an ES-135 I owned and loved them in there. They paired perfectly with the semi-hollow sound. I'm thinking about putting some in my Prospect.
 

bluesjuke

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I have '57's in all of my Gibsons and find them very dynamic especially in my 335's.

I do find that neck relief has a great effect on overall response from the guitar itself
and it is even more noticable on the 335's moreso than the other Gibsons.
 




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