Gibson Johnny A & Pat Martino models

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  1. FredW

    FredW Member

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    I have a Blonde Johnny A with a Bigsby and it is an amazing guitar. Very versatile and just a great instrument. I can get Gretsch sounds, screaming les paul type lead tones and really mellow jazzy stuff. I also think it looks killer as well.
     
  2. Echoes

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    I have the Johnny A with Bigsby. I love the 25 1/2" scale length ... very comfortable and easy to play. The light weight, balance feel and tone are unmatched compared to anything else I have ever played... the stock 57' pickups work great in this guitar...an inspirational joy to play.
     
  3. Jim Soloway

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    Now that's a gig I would have liked to have been at. Some serious guitar talent to have on one stage.
     
  4. Lotis

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    I have JA269. I have had many vintage guitars and I love this box! Been playing it for 6 years or more. It can get all Fender spanky Gibson dark. Does it all for me.
     
  5. Puckbucker

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    I own a JA stoptail. As above notes said, wide tonal range (can get close to a tele, and do trad jazz). Very comfy and good looking guitar. Not as much sustain as a solid guitar but an echo/ delay helps.

    The Pat Martino (Gibson model) is shaped like an ES 446s but has a maple top. Not sure if its semihollow or hollow. Beautiful but the one I played was heavy and muddy toned. However i think Lucidology on this site (great player) owns one and changed the pickups to make it sound great.
     
  6. TexGoneNW

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    Sorry if I wasn't clear - was asking about the Gibson PM model, not the Benedetto. Nice guitar, though.
     
  7. TexGoneNW

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    Does that mean that the sunburst Johnny A gets played more than the others?

    Nice collection of hollowbodies - do you get around to playing them all?
     
  8. Dashface

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    My old guitar teacher - Canadian jazzer Pat Coleman - had one of the first Gibson PM guitars. I got to play it a bit. Played like any other high-end Gibson as far as I was concerned, though a bit stiff feeling. Cool guitar.
     
  9. funkychicken70

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    hi
    I have a pat martino since several years (a 2000 model) and it's my main guitar.

    I read too it's a dark guitar from a test on the jack zucker website, but i disagree. This guitar sounds a lot like a les paul, minus the fat mids and with more air. The sound is very good for jazz, but i mostly play rock and funk with it and the trebles are here. Bonus : it handles very well big distortions !!!

    I disagree too with the lack of sustain. Mine sustains for days, better than most les paul i played :)huh) . Acoustic, it rings like a bell, with a bright sound.

    It plays fast but due to compound radius and small frets, it's a bit difficult to play for me. but it's ok ... i like a little fight if it sounds good !

    the guitar is faultless, with long neck tenon, and beautiful woods and finish. i will upgrade soon with new caps (very poor ceramic ones in it) and a faber abr kit, just for fun ...

    hope it helps
    sorry for gramatical mystakes, i'm french ...
     
  10. Danny W.

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    No.

    Yes.

    Danny W.
     
  11. GiorgioV

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    I've tried a Gibson Johnny A Standard and really liked it.

    Since then, I've acquired an ES 330 and completely fell in love with hollowbodies, so, given the construction and the specifics for the Johnny A model, I'd buy one this instant if I had the money.
     
  12. FlyingVBlues

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    Lucidology has posted in a lot of threads about his Pat Martino Gibson. Here's a Youtube vid he posted playing the PM at a gig with his funk band




    The stock Gibson '57 Classic pickups were replaced with Fralin Twangmasters.
     
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    That picture looks like it was a jazz communion service ....

    :banana
     
  14. davess23

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    I'm the happy owner of JA #118, a stoptail. Got it here on the Emporium a couple of years ago. It's a great guitar. Long scale length, light weight, and it gets sweet tone from the 57's it comes with. Very versatile guitar, too. Listen to the range of stuff that Johnny A plays.

    I love the inlays. And I wouldn't assume that hiring a luthier would guarantee me a better guitar than the JA. I've been aware of Gibson's erratic QA for a long time. Every one of the JA's I've played (not that many, but a few) was very nicely made. When the CS wants to, they can build as well as anyone.
     
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    Have you tried any of the Barney Kessel models that Gibson made? To be honest, the Johnny A looks to be just a variation of that guitar.
     
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    Some similarity in looks, but JA is long scale, thin body, solid maple top. BK is, afaik, short scale, deep body, either solid or laminate sprice top.
     
  17. Jim Soloway

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    Different geometry in the back as well and that's supposed to be a key structural characteristic of the JA credited with reducing feedback.
     
  18. Dashface

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    I love the looks of the Barney, but it seems to me that a Johnny A would be more versatile by a long shot... Certainly more usable in the every day.

    A local shop has a Trini Lopez Custom (which is essentially a Barney Kessel with a Trini headstock) and I covet it so much. If it didn't have a really tiny neck I would've ponied up a long time ago.
     
  19. Danny W.

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    While it has a similar shape, the JA construction is nothing like the Kessels

    The Kessels were, in fact, 25.5" scale length.

    Danny W.
     
  20. TexGoneNW

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    I have to admit, one major consideration for me is the weight (lack of it) of the Johnny A.
     

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