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Gibson leaving Memphis

Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by stonevibe, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. Boris Bubbanov

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    Well, at least there's other employment to be had, right now. There's work in Memphis, and those who have established an ability to be productive will get hired here, if they want to stay. It is the kind of place that's pretty sound for a operation such as Fed Ex.

    The bigger problem is, Memphis is losing its mojo. People who are the creative people and are looking to the future, just don't like what they see in Memphis lately. Nashville, meanwhile, is growing deep and attracting the future movers and shakers in the arts and so forth. Nashville is officially the #1 population center in Tennessee and Memphis is sliding into a subsidiary role in the region.

    And now, I-269 is complete and can route traffic around Memphis, from I-55 North at Hernando, MS, over to Collierville in far SE Shelby County, and on up to Arlington and I-40. If you don't have to deal with Memphis, now you may decide not to bother.
     
  2. Boris Bubbanov

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    Exactly.

    The Gibson employees now in Memphis could take another job and a (small) pay cut, stay in Memphis and still have more left over when the rent and light bill are paid. Than they'd have relocating to Nashville. The cost of living in and around Nashville, is already up and just going to get tougher. I suspect, the new Bosses will "solve" this problem through outsourcing subassemblies to contractors (probably overseas) and automate the heck out of the manufacturing process.

    Illustration: Client of mine listened to my advice, had a max NFIP policy on his home in New Orleans, and then Katrina hit and he saw 8 feet of sludgy ooze in that house and they totaled it. He got right about the $ 350,000 total, house and contents and he bought a house in Nashville at the end of 2005 for right around $ 425,000. And recently, he sold that house and got almost a million.
     
  3. Thumpalumpacus

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    IIRC, 27 Sauce used to work there.

    Inside Guy over at MLP did, as well.
     
  4. budglo58

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    This was the post I was supposed to be replying to. Humidity is not really a concern as much as location to resources . Access to all that timber in Montana just like Martin being so close to the Adirondacks. Once the wood is inside the building , humidification becomes a non issue.

    Your right my apologies. I never should post while under the influence of dayquil. I agree 100 percent with your post.
     
  5. RayBarbeeMusic

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    In my experience, based on what comes through the shop, the Nashville made Gibsons have far less neck issues than Memphis made Gibsons. I would hope quality on the former Memphis models would increase (mostly massive tongue rise).

    And yes, housing costs in Nashville right now are absurd, and salaries in general are below national average.
     
  6. jhfire

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    Maybe Heritage will take over this Gibson plant? Just like they did with Kalamazoo plant.

    I got to tour the Memphis facility years ago, it was quite an experience!
     
  7. hunter

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    Unfortunately, I think Heritage is fighting for its life too.

    hunter
     
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    $495 in 1972 is equal to $2,995 in today’s dollars.
     
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  9. specialidiot

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    We were in Memphis in 2016 and toured the plant. While I knew Gibson was there and had planned to take the tour, the location of the "factory" was kind of a shock to me. Right on the edge of downtown, katty-corner from the big arena seemed to be pretty odd. If I recall correctly the back half of the building (or maybe a separate building) is a high end boutique hotel.

    Still, I was never a huge fan of Gibson products until then. But now I have a fantastic Memphis-made VOS '58 ES-335 that has all of the tones in my head that I associate with my perfect guitar sounds.


    While walking through the airport we were shocked.... it seems about 80% abandoned - why wouldn't they shut down a wing or two instead of having active gates scattered around?

    They could be better too!

    I'm happy for you!
     
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  11. eigentone

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    Certainly. IME it's better to improve a good thing than to start with a whole new team. It will probably take Nashville a few years to reach Memphis's current level if they do. I have the impression most of the work force from Memphis will not be going to Nashville.
     
  12. specialidiot

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    That's in the "we don't know that" category, but it's a lot easier to be pessimistic than optimistic. At least that seems to be the TGP way.

    Could be they take team leads and key employees, like the burst specialist guy that was pointed out to us during our tour. It would be a good opportunity for them to trim the under performers and reward their stars with a decent relo package.
     
  13. eigentone

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    Sure. Or Gibson could let go of senior staff again.

    I simply think Gibson Memphis was doing a good job. And I think it would take any new team time to hire, train, and get production smooth and quality (as) high. I think that's a pretty reasonable expectation. Not pessimistic IMO.
     

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