Gibson Les Paul Custom R4 w/ neck alnico V pup...comments?

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  1. Jim S

    Jim S Silver Supporting Member Supporting Member

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    Thinking of getting one of this. Experiences?
    Pros?
    Cons?

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    (I won one on ebay last month and got totally fleeced out of my money. First time in 7 years on ebay I've gotten raped. I have notified the FBI, ICE3, etc)
     
  2. Thelonius

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    I see it has a stop tail instead of a wrap, and of course the pickup change, but what other deviances does it have from a normal R4?
     
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    AWESOME guitars. They do it all-- gorgeous, fat cleans from the alnico neck pup and screamin P90 tones from the bridge. Nice fat neck and a lot of mojo. I absolutely love mine.
     
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    I've had mine for 5 years now and I'll never sell it. I've got an R4 as well. They are my two favorite Gibson's, by far.
     
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    By the way, Thelonious, that guitar is stock. The R4 Custom has that neck pup and stoptail as std. equip.
     
  6. WordMan

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    Jim - man, I remember when you first won that eBay auction when I was researching my 1973 '54 Reissue Custom. Your situation completely, totally sucks and I am sorry to hear about it. Best of luck pursuing action against the person.

    I LOVE my '54 Reissue - it is not a more recent R4 so I can't comment on comparability, but as a basic design, it is my soulmate. CNP has it spot on - the neck cleans are single-coil but thick and rich and 3D like an old DeArmond in a pre-Filtertron Gretsch, and the P-90 spanks and bites like it should. Just amazing.

    Don't lose heart on the guitar - just go get the bastards!!
     
  7. matte

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    I had 2. Construction is totally different from the original issues. The neck pickup alone is worth the price of admission. You could say that I'm a bit of a fan of that particular pickup.
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  8. Jim S

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    Thanks for your compassion
    ...and all your answers guys! It certainly turns the g.a.s. up one notch for this.
     
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    Gibson P-90 Wrap Tails are easily the best guitars on the planet.
     
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    Jim, I have 15 very high end guitars, including 6 Gibson Historics, 2 PRSi including an ME, CS Fenders, McNaught, you get the idea. Included is one of the exact guits you speak of. It's my favorite. Nuff said. Just get it. AC
     
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    love the R4 custom.
    usually a bit heavier than an R8 or R9. that alnico PUP is SOOOOO cool.
    i'm looking for a 2002 or earlier R4 custom w/ a bigsby.
     
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    This is clearly a '54 Custom Love-In! fwiw, mine weighs about 8 lbs and the resonance is incredible. Really adds to the alnico tone...
     
  13. Jim S

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    I may take the plunge this week...for the second time.
    Thanks again, GP members. Or maybe not....for doing VISA damage. ;)
     
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    How is the alnico pickup different from a P90 (tonally, that is)?
     
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    The '54 Custom also has a mahogany top instead of maple if I remember correctly.
     
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    Yep - the '54 Custom is all mahogany - count me as a believer that P-90's work best in an all-mahogany guitar, but I am a bit biased.

    Falstaff - the Alnico 5 sounds really, really different from a P-90. Remember, the Custom was intended to be played wearing a tux and doing jazz and pop standards. The A5 makes the guitar sound almost like a jazz box - well, not really, but clear, transparent, a hint of twang, lots of rich, clean 3-D color with much more bottom than Fender single coils. I hear rockabilly in it when I play. It gains up great, too - Open G tuning and Rolling Stones songs are wonderful.

    A P-90 gets gritty much faster, has a tonal profile that emphasizes the mids and highs a lot more - it has a spank and bite that the A5 doesn't. They really complement each other perfectly.

    Hijack - I just took the pickguard off of my '54 Custom Reissue - omigod does it look rock n' roll. I never thought I would take a pickguard off - I think of that little plastic triangle as essential to the look of a 'burst LP - but on this all-black guitar with the black pickups, it just looks sleek.
     
  17. Jim S

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    Trigger pulled ............again. :FM
    She should arrive next week and she gets the test drive through my Soldano SLO and X99:

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    Just....beautiful. Tons of luck with this one!!
     
  19. Jim S

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    Finally got it. Very interesting sounding guitar.

    In high gain settings it's very defined and articulate with a nice singing quality and fine sustain.
    Crunch is lots of fun. Clean is very Tele-ish with both pups on. And it looks so elegant too.
    A breeze to play too. Neck is super comfy: not too chunky or too thin.

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    Yay you! Congrats - looks great. Try taking the pickguard off if you are in a real rock n' roll mood - otherwise enjoy your new baby! I couldn't be happier with mine!
     

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