Gibson SG 61 reissue vs SG standard: what are the differences?

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  1. kingsxman

    kingsxman Silver Supporting Member

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    Starting an SG search. Wondering what the differences are in the 61 SG reissue vs a standard SG. Also, why do some 61's have the lyre (sp?) bridge on them and others dont? Whats up with that...?
     
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    The biggest most notable difference is the 61 has a slim taper neck and the standard has a thicker, non tapered neck.
     
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    dumb question but whats the "taper" on a slim taper neck? width? thickness?
     
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    61

    Thinner neck
    Shorter neck joint
    Sharper body bevels (resulting in a slightly thinner body)
    Better cuts of wood, usually 1 piece
    Small pickguard
    57 pickups
    ABR-1 Bridge

    Standard

    Fatter 50's style neck
    Longer neck joint
    Fatter body bevels
    Lesser cuts of wood, 2 or more peices
    Large pickguard
    498T/490R pickups. The 498T is a hotter more modern bridge pickup
    Nashville bridge

    The tonal difference of the two make the 61 more vintage traditional sounding, a little brighter with more treble bite while the standard has a little beefier more rock tone.
     
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    There are a few notable differences:

    1. As bigggreen said, the '61 has the slim-taper neck and the standard has a thicker, rounder profile.
    2. The neck tenon & joint is slightly shallower on the '61 giving you more upper fret access.
    3. The standard has the large pickguard while the '61 has the small one
    4. The standard comes with 498 and 490T or 500T ceramic magnet pickups while the '61 comes with 57 Classics
    5. The body contours are slightly different.
    6. The production model '61 reissue currently isn't offered with the Lyre tailpiece or vibrato system, but several of the VOS, Custom Shop, and artist models are.

    Hope that helps.
     
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    No 500T on SG's. Some older oddball models had it (i.e SG-Z, SG-X, Voodoo), but they weren't standards and none have it now.
     
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    Thickness, It is shallower at the nut and tapers back to the body. I personally think this is the bomb, end all best neck set up for a Gibson, :bow but of course there is no accounting for taste.


    Oh, and of course, there is 1 other minor difference that everyone has forgotten to mention.

    +/- aprox. $600
     
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    Thanks All. Good info. I'll have to actually play a 61 reissue to see if I like that tapered neck.

    $600 difference? isnt the price difference more on the line of 1k?

    I also am thinking about the Gibson SG standard VOS. Those look pretty nice also..but are a mint.
     
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    The reissue is a more noticeably neck heavy than the standard too.
     
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    no, it is about $600 give or take.

    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-SG-61-Reissue-Electric-Guitar?sku=518935

    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-SG-Standard-Electric-Guitar?sku=517265
     
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    the old standards Pre-2000 or so, not sure exactly, had abr-1 bridges.
     
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    kingsxman Silver Supporting Member

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    Is that good?
     
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    What about poly vs nitro finish?
     
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    I like the abr 1 better than the nashville style.

    The nashville style is bigger, and I just like the abr1 looks better. Maybe some of the tonal snobs will say one sounds better?
     
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    they both have nitro
     
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    Is that the same neck that's on the Les Paul Classic?
     
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    yep
     
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    This is the neck tenon on a '61 Reissue.

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    I'm not sure what the Standard joint is like, does anyone have a picture for a comparison?

    Cheers,

    Chris.
     

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