Gibson Sues Dean Guitars Over Alleged Trademark Infringement

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  1. Rocco Crocco

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    Yeah, there's no way the headstock thing will fly. I dunno about the body shape either. I mean, it's a shape that's been copied for a long long time, making imho generic to the field.

    Perhaps Gibson hope to force Dean to settle rather than go through a long, costly trial.
     
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    This whole thing is so embarrassing for Gibson. They really didn't think this through.

     
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    Gibson will cherry pick who they sue, just like they did under Henry. I would like to see them sue Yamaha. LOL
     
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    For good reason, never *ever* let accountants or lawyers run a company.
     
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    Damn. Too bad, I was pretty excited with the changes at Gibson recently. This move sours me on the brand again. It would be one thing if Dean had just started making Flying V and Explorer style guitars but they’ve been making them for over 40 years. Lame ass move, Gibson.
     
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    I don't totally blame them but at the same time I wonder if it will backfire or make them look like a 'bully'. The internet has been bullying Gibson for years now and I doubt this will help them on this level of understanding. I own a Gibson and never regretted buying it but I do wonder about the decision making over the years, maybe this is necessary but maybe not.
     
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    What a shame after all the good PR they got from their new 2019 releases. One step forward two steps back.
     
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    Probably a mistake by the legal department, the new CEO is a super cool dude who wears a leather jacket and loves guitars. He's going to save Gibson by making quality guitars people want or something like that.
     
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    I don't recall - but I think Gibson did some preliminary legal work in the 80s on protecting the Flying V headstock shape - I think that's why Hamer reshaped their Flying V somewhat - and also why Dean went to the ridiculous reverse V headstock.

    Regarding the latest - I bet this will get some traction - and may even result in a cease and desist ruling without actually economic punishment - or even a low cost license agreement.
     
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    I'm all for business protecting their copyrights, patents, etc... Whatever is the correct term for this. LOL

    But... They should've done this 40 years ago and I bet the court will rule against them because of that. It's my understanding that you have to protect your stuff from the beginning, not 40 years later. But heck, I dunno.
     
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    This will backfire badly on Gibson.
     
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    I suspect this will end about as well as Gibson versus PRS did in 2005, unless Dean doesn’t have the money to fight this in court.
     
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    I know, right. Will they ever learn? I had hopes for the new management but it seems the same corporate mentality still lingers.
     
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    Here we go again.
     
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    I agree about the 40 years, but the fact that Dean did nothing after the cease and desist letters is not going to be good for Dean.
     
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    How much time do they get?

    From the article:
    The company sent its own cease and desist in May 2019, followed by this court filing.
     
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    Of course they filed in the eastern district of Texas, which has historically been a sanctuary for patent trolls.
     
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    seems the prices of R9s and the like are paying for lawyers
     

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