Giggling tremolo arm on a strat ?

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  1. birillo

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    Hello Guys,

    So I'm new to strats so i don't know if this is normal.

    I have a vintage type tremolo ( the one that you need to screw in ), and a couple of days ago i've noticed that when i insert the tremolo arm ( i really use it seldomly ) the arm Giggles

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    when fully inserted, the blue line represents the center position, i can move the arm between the two blue lines without it "moving" the bridge... Is this normal ? :confused:

    In this second pic (this should be a cutaway from the bridge), if it's so the arm shouldn't "giggle" as it does...

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    What can this be ? is it normal ? if not .. how can i fix this ?

    thank You !
     
  2. GCDEF

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    Maybe you're tickling it.
     
  3. birillo

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    Rofl :) seriuosly ? if so the neck should get a B...er ;)
     
  4. GCDEF

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    But seriously, are you screwing it all the way in? It should be pretty tight.
     
  5. cardinal

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    You can stick a small spring into the hole in the trem block (Fender sells one) that will press the arm against the threads, holding it steady. You also can just wrap PTFE tape around the arm's threads to make the fit tighter. That's what I do. You have to reapply the tape every so often, but whatever.
     
  6. birillo

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    Yep, it shouldn't behave that way, but it seems to be a solid block like this one :

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    The slot for the arm looks like its drilled and then threaded, so I immagine it SHOULD NOT do so.

    Can i eventually replace the part up in the pic ?

    Thank You !
     
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    giggles as in laughs out loud?
     
  9. Eagle1

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    It is part of the design unfortunately. The only real fix is wrap plumbers PTFE tape around the thread before you screw in the bar. You will need to replace the tape oftern though.
     
  10. bob-i

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    Nope, use the spring mentioned above. Works like a charm.
     
  11. buddastrat

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    So that's how Vai got his guitar to have that laugh effect on Eat 'em and Smile!
     
  12. Eagle1

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    As long as you like slop, the spring only holds the bar from falling away. If you want proper articulation you're going to need the tape.
     
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    I use heat shrink wrap. Works better than the teflon tape method, lasts longer.
    You can get it at any hardware store. Holds the bar firmly in place.
     
  14. cardinal

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    ^ that's a neat idea. I'll give that a try.
     
  15. Grainslayer

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    The arm on my strat did that also.i tried threading it in one more revolution and stripped the threads..I had another mystery arm kicking around that I found in the case of a used guitar I had bought but wasn't for that guitar.it was thicker with bigger/longer threads.with a little bit of persuasion,I was able to re-thread it in to the stock block.fits nicer/tighter than the stock arm ever did and has a more comfortable angle..kinda lucked out on that one..:cool:
     
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    I use the spring and it works like a charm. no play in the arm at all, so i'm not really sure what you're referring to as slop.

    Every couple of months, I swap it out once it gets too compressed (or if it falls out and i lose it. But Fender sells big bags of them for like 5 bucks.
     
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    I use the spring and tubing. Works better and longer than Teflon tape.
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    Mine works perfectly with the spring, no more slop and no more replacing the every few hours of playing.
     
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    All the ideas above obviously work for the user's but there is a large variation in the wobble from bridge to bridge, try them all and do what works best on your bridge. The reason I surgest the Teflon tape is it has the smoothest feel and works on all bridges.
     

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