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Going from Multi Effects to Analog - Help

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by Leb, Jun 19, 2006.

  1. Leb

    Leb Member

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    Hi guys, i hve been using POD XT live for many years now and right now i am thinking of going analog. Usually i would prefer to go direct to the PA system becasue some churches has no amps. So waht kind of preamp do u thk i shd get to go direct to the house with analog pedals? Crate powerblock?
    Thanks

    Leb
     
  2. jaymeister

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    I'd say stick with what you have.
     
  3. Leb

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    I really want to switch to analog. Cause its so much simpler.
    Will tube preamps do the job?
    Or a Behringer DI Box with emulators?

    Leb
     
  4. StompBoxBlues

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    Since you only need "a preamp box" to up the signal from the analog, and since you are doing this, from what I gather from what you wrote, to simplify (i.e. you are not bothered by digital) couldn't you just use the Pod XT as a simple preamp into the PA system, just without turning on any patches? I mean, on the Behringer V-amp2, you can turn off all effects/modelling and simple use it as a boost as well.

    Would that not work for you?
     
  5. KRosser

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    Not to be a smart ass here or anything, but it sounds to me like what you have right now could not be much 'simpler', if that's what you're after.

    Is there a tonal/musical reason for the change as well? Maybe that would help clarify the question?
     
  6. afterburner

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    I would recommend one of the tech21 sansamp products like the GT2.
     
  7. Leb

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    Thanks for those replies guys.

    I do not want to carry so many equipments here and there as i dont drive.
    I currently own an xt live. (Which is pretty heavy haha)
    Simpler means i can tweak on the fly easily and get the tone i need quick. :D so far i spend so much lesser time tweaking and now i juz enjoy playing music.
    For me now i need a preamp so tt i can go straight into the PA system.
    Suggestions so far:
    1)Mesa V-Twin pedal
    2)XT
    3)GT2

    Any others? What about crate powerblock anyone?

    Leb
     
  8. carltonh

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    This suggestion is quite different than the others, and involves a major expense and change, but a Pritchard amp has the best DI available, as basically everyone who has ever used it can attest.

    Other than that extreme option, I'll agree with options already given. I'd recommend V-Stack except that it doesn't get clean enough, IMO.

    If you want to wait, The V-Stack amp may be a reasonable cost compromise.
     
  9. Ben Furman

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    I'll concur with carltonh about the Pritchard but also state that if you want simple then it doesn't get any simpler than the GT-2. For Tech21's best and most tweakable, you're looking at a PSA-1, but that offers almost as much complexity as the Line6 stuff. It is analog, though.
     
  10. Leb

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    Hi all,
    is Pritchard really an amp? cause i wont be able to carry an amplifier around.

    Talking about Gt2, what abt the Tri ac? any comments on that
    and how is it compared to the V-Stack :D

    Thanks

    Leb
     
  11. carltonh

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    Yes, the Pritchard is really an amp, though as a 1x12 it is only about 32 lbs.

    www.pritchardamps.com.

    IMO, the V-Stack has better medium to high gain sounds than Tech 21, but the GT2 has better clean sounds than V-Stack pedals. Don't know about the Tri AC.
     
  12. msp

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    my sugestion may be far from your vision of what you want or need:

    but, you may want to keep your pod and consider the bose PAS aproach

    to me it sounds like what you are looking for
     
  13. Leb

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    Too expensive and too many things to bring around...
    I need something simpler like a preamp ahha

    so far i am considering the sansamp triac
    cause the Messa V twin and H&K tubeman, are not available in SIngapore.

    Leb
     
  14. danel59

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    Try a Koch Pedaltone - similar idea to the Mesa V-Twin but even more versatile and the speaker sims sound better to my ears. It has seperate controls, tone and gain for both clean and overdrive channels plus it has a boost function for the overdrive and enhance for the clean channel but the real kicker is it uses one of the 4 preamp tubes as a 1/2 watt power amp that thickens up and adds more dynamics to the sound and feel. It also has the solo function to kick in a boost for leads. You can use it direct to PA/Headphones, a Preamp into a Poweramp, or go into a clean channel of another guitar amp all giving great results. I use mine (and I did at one point have the V-Twin) mostly as a direct rig with a GT8 but pedals work well with it too and it also has an effects loop in it too. The tone and feel beat the V-twin hands down IMHO. Highly recommended.

    Dan
     
  15. WonderDude

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    Get the Behringer Ultra-G and a few good stomp boxes. You'll be amazed at the tone you can get from that.

    I'm running...
    Morley Wah/Volume -> BD-2 -> OD-3 -> Ultra-G -> AD-5 -> PA

    Now all I need is a good delay pedal and I'll be all set!
     

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