Good buffer w/small footprint?

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  1. Super Locrian

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    Does anyone make a small, but high quality buffer pedal?
     
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    psquared Supporting Member

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    Lovepedal. I have one and it's about 2" x 2". I think, if he still is turning them out, they're in the $80 neighborhood. Sound great!
     
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    +1 on the Lovepedal
    I have a Doobtone microbuffer that I found from the builder on eBay a while back.... but I don't know if they're still available
     
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    Lovepedal and the Doobtone Microbuffer are both great, and very small.
     
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    Doobtone is still in the biz, he just sells direct and not on ebay anymore, price is 40 bones last time I checked.

    You can contact Steve Dudley at Doobtone at

    SDudley6760@aol.com

    Cheers:BEER
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  7. todaystomorrow

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    good to know.... I highly recommend that buffer... works and sounds great. It was a pleasant surprise for me for the money.
     
  8. Frenster

    Frenster Put your Rock Face on!

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    The WOBO Buffer/Booster is pretty cool. A bit bright for me, but very nice.
     
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    how big is the doobtone buffer? The MI Audio Boost 'n' Buff is like 5meg.

    I am curious.
     
  10. Todd Lynch

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    My current fave is a Germanium buffer - circuit from Jack Orman's site - uses an AC128 - fantastic sound - warm, wonderful. I like it a lot better than an opamp based standalone buffer.
     
  11. Deville2Rocket

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    I have a pedalboard with like 7 pedals on it. I've been playing for almost 20 yrs, and I've never heard of a buffer.

    What is the purpose of a buffer?
    What is it, what's it do, and Y do I need one?
    :band
     
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    it's in between the Throbak and the Blue Collar in this pic.... it's also small enough to mount under the rungs of my pedaltrain if I wanted.
     
  13. Deville2Rocket

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    Bump.. Somebody help me!
     
  14. meterman

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    It lowers the impedance of your guitar's signal, making it less susceptible to frequency loss as it travels through your pedal chain. In this case one would place it first or close to first in the chain, after any fuzzes but before as many pedals as possible. When placed at the end of the pedal chain it helps to drive your signal through long cables, again reducing the amount of signal and frequency losses. Many pedals that are not true-bypass have cheap, bad sounding buffers in them (Ibanez, Boss - well Boss isn't toooo bad). Even true bypass pedals can suck some tone, at least according to pedalboard-maker-to-the-legends Pete Cornish. Cornish goes so far in his boards as to give each pedal an individual tube-driven buffer! On the other hand, I don't use one, I have mostly true bypass pedals but my delay, at the end of my chain, is buffered which helps getting the signal through the cables to the amp. I've never tried a dedicated, high quality buffer early in my chain but I imagine it would restore some of the high end I lose when I go through my 6-10 true bypass pedals....
     
  15. Deville2Rocket

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    So let me get this straight...
    For years people have been preaching that TB is a must for retaining good signal fidelity, and now they're saying you need a buffer?

    God, these signal purists have completely missed the point.
     
  16. RGB

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    Don't know if it's small enough for you, but the Axess BS-2 sounds great and has some nice features for signal split and phase.
     
  17. frizbplaya

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    Buffers add a small amount of noise as they go. If you have 11 pedals with cruddy buffers in them, your signal will sound bad. TB gets rid of that, but your pickups can't push a signal through 70 feet of cable so there needs to be at least one buffer (preferably a good one!) to help the signal out. IMO having a good buffer and TB pedals will give the best tone - at least until the next fad comes in!
     
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    There's more than just a buffer inside Ibanez/DOD/Boss pedals, there's also the complete circuit that doesn't completely disconnect when you turn the pedal off. This results in unpredictable and often negative tone effects. If you're running one guitar to one pedal to one amp, the true bypass idea works quite well. If you're running a bunch of pedals, signal loss can get noticeable even with TB pedals, hence the buffer early in the chain. Fuzzes need to be before the buffer to preserve the interaction between pickups and fuzz. Most pedals act like buffers when they're engaged, so using a 10' cable to a true bypass looper to a 10' cable will still give as good or better sounds than a buffered signal...
     
  20. John Thigpen

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    I don't think I've seen this exact question asked before. A lot of buffers include a boost also. If you already have a clean boost pedal (in my case a Juaernig Luxury Drive) and leave it on all the time, does that accomplish the same thing as a buffer? Thanks.

    John
     

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