Good news for those who travel with instruments

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  1. pinner

    pinner Silver Supporting Member

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    Any idea what are the "standard weight and size requirements for checked instruments"?
     
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    No idea. Just saw the linked article.
     
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    So: no heavier than 165lbs, in a case or gig bag, and there must be room for it in the cabin at the time the passenger boards the aircraft.

    Still lots of wiggle room there.

    This is an excerpt of the FAA Modernization and
    Reform Act of 2012 (H.R. 658, passed by both
    House and Senate). For full text, see here:
    http://1.usa.gov/yiKPKe

    SEC. 403. MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS.
    (a) IN GENERAL.—Subchapter I of chapter 417 is amended
    by adding at the end the following:
    ‘‘§ 41724. Musical instruments
    ‘‘(a) IN GENERAL.—
    ‘‘(1) SMALL INSTRUMENTS AS CARRY-ON BAGGAGE.—An air
    carrier providing air transportation shall permit a passenger
    to carry a violin, guitar, or other musical instrument in the
    aircraft cabin, without charging the passenger a fee in addition
    to any standard fee that carrier may require for comparable
    carry-on baggage, if—
    ‘‘(A) the instrument can be stowed safely in a suitable
    baggage compartment in the aircraft cabin or under a
    passenger seat, in accordance with the requirements for
    carriage of carry-on baggage or cargo established by the
    Administrator; and
    ‘‘(B) there is space for such stowage at the time the
    passenger boards the aircraft.

    ‘‘(2) LARGER INSTRUMENTS AS CARRY-ON BAGGAGE.—An air
    carrier providing air transportation shall permit a passenger
    to carry a musical instrument that is too large to meet the
    requirements of paragraph (1) in the aircraft cabin, without
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    charging the passenger a fee in addition to the cost of the
    additional ticket described in subparagraph (E), if—
    ‘‘(A) the instrument is contained in a case or covered
    so as to avoid injury to other passengers;
    ‘‘(B) the weight of the instrument, including the case
    or covering, does not exceed 165 pounds or the applicable
    weight restrictions for the aircraft;
    ‘‘(C) the instrument can be stowed in accordance with
    the requirements for carriage of carry-on baggage or cargo
    established by the Administrator;

    ‘‘(D) neither the instrument nor the case contains any
    object not otherwise permitted to be carried in an aircraft
    cabin because of a law or regulation of the United States;
    and
    ‘‘(E) the passenger wishing to carry the instrumentin the aircraft cabin has purchased an additional seat
    to accommodate the instrument.
    ‘‘(3) LARGE INSTRUMENTS AS CHECKED BAGGAGE.—An air
    carrier shall transport as baggage a musical instrument that
    is the property of a passenger traveling in air transportation
    that may not be carried in the aircraft cabin if—
    ‘‘(A) the sum of the length, width, and height measured
    in inches of the outside linear dimensions of the instrument
    (including the case) does not exceed 150 inches or the
    applicable size restrictions for the aircraft;
    ‘‘(B) the weight of the instrument does not exceed
    165 pounds or the applicable weight restrictions for the
    aircraft; and
    ‘‘(C) the instrument can be stowed in accordance with
    the requirements for carriage of carry-on baggage or cargo
    established by the Administrator.
    ‘‘(b) REGULATIONS.—Not later than 2 years after the date of
    enactment of this section, the Secretary shall issue final regulations
    to carry out subsection (a).
    ‘‘(c) EFFECTIVE DATE.—The requirements of this section shall
    become effective on the date of issuance of the final regulations
    under subsection (b).’’.
    (b) CONFORMING AMENDMENT.—The analysis for such subchapter
    is amended by adding at the end the following:
    ‘‘41724. Musical instruments.’’.
     
  5. Tahitijack

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    In the past two weeks I flew Delta. First time I asked for a gate check (I always do and its stored with strollers, baby seats and large roll-abords). This time the gate agent took my guitar (strat in hard shell case) and told me she would put it in the overhead above my seat. It was there when I eventually boarded the flight. On the return Delta flight the gate agent told me to take it on board. One of the flight attendeds stored it in the forward cabin somewhere and it was sitting in the front galley near the flight deck as I left the plain.... amazing! I like Delta.
     
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    can't believe more people haven't commented on this. good stuff.
     
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    I have traveled a few times on Delta with my guitar and never had any issues, but I do have status with them (Silver/Gold) and I can always get on the plane fairly early. I would worry on a carrier I don't have status with.
     
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    the airlines can be inconsistent in their interpretation and application of rules, and always at the flight crews' discretion...especially when you need to be somewhere and are boarding...no time to discuss. I have status on Delta, and it is always a crap shoot. at least it ain't united: :omg

    remember this?

     
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    Delta's been incredibly good to me lately. I've only had to gate-check my guitar on those tiny little regional planes; otherwise they usually find a closet space up front.

    And this, with a Super Jumbo in a hard case!
     
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    I brought a guitar back from Canada a few years ago. The lady at the ticket counter said she didn't know if they would let me take it on board or if I would have to check it at the gate. When I got to the plane the stewardess was nice enough to put it in their personal closet.
     
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    Yes, real airlines -Delta, etc will adhere especially if you are in a non hub city. But your $99 flight on a cheap airline that is already oversold out of a major city--don't bet on it.
     
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    This ^ makes sense, and is good information for me. No immediate plans, but nice to think about should I need to fly with a guitar in the future. Thank you.
     

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