Good tabs for Carmichael's Stardust?

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  1. pfflam

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    Anybody?

    BTW - check this out for the tears!!:

     
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    Tabs!? You want chord changes? Truth is, this is one (of the many) standards I don't know very well...
     
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    I have a 'Real Book' that has it, and I can fudge around quite a bit with it, even pretending to outline the melody. But its a hard melody to get in mind - which is part of its ephemeral power --Man what a song!!! So I figured maybe someone has a Tab laying around, help a down on his luck buddy?!
     
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    It's supposed to be based on some lines he got from a Pops solo. I wonder which one?
    Love the verse and chorus.
     
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    How funny, the thread for Late Bloomers has a pretty good working out of some of Stardust in Gflat . . . good timing.
     
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    Sometimes I just luck out.
     
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    It gets played in C a lot but I think it was originally in Db.
     
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    there's an intro to it too
    "and now the purple dusk of twilight time..."

    not sure the history - if the intro was added later or ?
    but often people leave it out - there's a Ella Fitzgerald version with the intro.
    I know my funny valentine has an intro in the musical but most people don't play it.
    (its not as great as the Stardust intro IMO)

    I like the "Lucky Strike Orchestra" version of Stardust with Sinatra.
    ...or the Nat King Cole or Fitzgerald versions are great too.
     
  11. Jim Soloway

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    I've recently arranged it and been teaching it. A magical piece of music with an almost endless variety of approaches. I worked mostly from the Nat Cole version. It has a purity and completeness that's pretty special.
     
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    It's weird to hear the original up-tempo Hoagy version.
     
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    For some reason I group this song with Lush Life, because its kind of meandering, (but not as much as lush life)

    here's some more info on the tune from NPR (with info from Carmichael himself).

    "And so one night, he said, `Hoag, play that tune you wrote about six or eight weeks ago.' I said, `What tune?' He said, `I just thought so.' He said, I'll show you.' He went over to the piano with one finger, he went dung, dang, dang, dun, ba, da, da, da. I said, `Oh, that. Yeah.' Would you believe that I'd almost forgotten "Stardust" in that six- or seven-week period, and if he hadn't have played it, I might never have continued with the song. Now that's something that's never been written about or told."

    part of his inspiration came from Bix Beiderbecke (not Armstrong AFAIK)
    "His intention in writing this tune was to capture in the form of a melody the essence of a Bix Beiderbecke cornet song"

    http://www.npr.org/2000/12/11/1115358/npr100-i-stardust-i

    Here's a longer NPR piece on Carmichael:
    http://www.npr.org/2008/03/12/88122354/hoagy-carmichael-stardust-melodies
     
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    I think Isham Jones/Victor Young turned it into a ballad. That might be where the intro came from:
     
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    It continues to evolve but here's a recording I did about a week ago. It includes the intro.

     
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    Most of Hoagy's original changes sound pretty dated as compared to the way the songs have been taken as well. I can't say how many ways I've been asked to play "Georgia". Great tunes though.

    My Philadelphia friends like these Hoagies better.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Beautiful!
     
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    Thanks. It's been an easy song to obsess on.
     
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    Willie Nelson has a very nice guitar-based version of Stardust (in fact, the album is "Stardust.") I like it better than the Hoagy Carmichael version. There's a WN version of it on "Country Tabs"
     
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    Really nice Jim, really nice indeed!

    Stardust is one that has eluded me also, all these years. Coincidentally I was just looking at it the other night, when playing Star Eyes from the Real Book. I do like Willie's version very much, also...
     

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