I didn't mean to diss java altogether (although it clearly seems I have with my emoticon I've just used way too many "apps" that work with runtime this, but not runtime that and trying to bob and weave to find the magic JRE that works with everything, all of the time. Not fun, I can't imagine how a lay person deals. The lightweight java editor (free) was very nice and worked, but the new one seems like it will be more stable (someday lol) and the interface is almost exactly what you get on the front panel of the unit (minus the hex bolts). Once the editor is working in lock step with the unit (and yes, OS + midi hardware + editor compatibility will ALWAYS be an issue -- just look at Presonus, Reaper, Sonar, etc... forums and you'll see everything doesn't always work with everything unfortunately) it's going to be a slick rig. The editor seems like it's actually the basis for a OS based standalone application as well (VST, directX maybe?). That will be incredible as well.