Not for the pedals I have, but for using pegboard, electrical boxes and zip ties. I asked him what his board cost, since he owns a Pedaltrain Jr. He said $100 + velcro. I told him it cost me less than $70 for the case, board, zips, and electrical boxes. He's running out of room with 5 pedals and I have plenty of room for 10. Screw him I'm proud of it.