Goto 510 bridge issue

[Sixstring]

I have a Suhr Rasmus GG that has the 510 two post. I was playing it unplugged today and noticed that it has a vibration or rattle of sorts that goes away with a slight downward presser to the saddles. It's more prominent when playing 2 note chords on the 4th and 5th strings in the middle of the neck.

It's not overly excessive but is noticeable. I have ruled out the springs and Tremol-No system which I have installed. Has anybody come across this issue or know what the cause might be?

 

[EADGBE]

Can you post a picture of the bridge type?

 

[Sixstring]

Here you go...

 

[RvChevron]

There are internal set screws inside the post bolts to keep them locked. One or both of these internal set screws might have come loose. Check them and tighten them if needed.

If this step fails, I would take off all the saddles and check the screws that mount the plate to the block.

One more thing, there's a bolt inside down the trem arm hole/bushing, if that came loose, it might cause buzzing noise too.

Also the screw on the trem spring claw that keeps the ground wire in place, have you checked that?

 

[EADGBE]

It may be the saddle height adjustment screws themselves vibrating on the bridge plate. You may have to adjust them until the buzzing goes away. I've read that sometimes a B.C. Rich Quadmatic bridge sometimes has to have the saddles adjusted unlevel via their height adjustment screws before the buzzing will stop. If you fix it, could you let us know how you did it? I'm curious about this.

 

[Sixstring]

RvChevron had the fix...

I had no idea there were internal locking set screws in the posts on this bridge. I sent the 1.5mm set screws home and no more buzz. Thanks man...

I"m surprised that Suhr didn't include this info with the guitar in fact there weren't any care instructions for the guitar at all. This is some what my first natural finnish guitar and had to look up the best way to care for this type of finnish (linseed oil). As to adjusting the bridge I would have never known about the locking set screws. I did check the saddle adjustment screws just to make sure and they were tight.

Thanks again guys.

 

[Oso]

RvChevron had the fix...

I had no idea there were internal locking set screws in the posts on this bridge. I sent the 1.5mm set screws home and no more buzz. Thanks man...

I"m surprised that Suhr didn't include this info with the guitar in fact there weren't any care instructions for the guitar at all. This is some what my first natural finnish guitar and had to look up the best way to care for this type of finnish (linseed oil). As to adjusting the bridge I would have never known about the locking set screws. I did check the saddle adjustment screws just to make sure and they were tight.

Thanks again guys.

Dont put linseed oil on unless you are going to rewax the guitar. A little Lemon Pledge on a cloth is all you should need.
If you have any questions......
I answer PM's multiple times a day from this forum. If anyone has any questions shoot me a PM ! or call, or use the email travisATsuhr.com
We are working on a comprehensive manual for the guitars.

 

[walterw]

A little Lemon Pledge on a cloth is all you should need.

i thought pledge had silicone and was thus a Bad Idea.

 

[Sixstring]

Dont put linseed oil on unless you are going to rewax the guitar. A little Lemon Pledge on a cloth is all you should need.
If you have any questions......
I answer PM's multiple times a day from this forum. If anyone has any questions shoot me a PM ! or call, or use the email travisATsuhr.com
We are working on a comprehensive manual for the guitars.

Thanks for the reply John, I haven't used any thing on it as of yet just wipe downs with a micro fiber cloth at this point, I just bought the guitar a month ago. If pledge is what you are recommending then that is what I will use. Also what wax are you using or recommend using? I would also like to add the blower switch on this if possible so I will be contacting you for that info.

Additional info on the vibration problem. After I tightened the locking set screws on the bridge I thought things were ok then I hit some open chords really hard and herd more of the same noise.

Come to find out that the Tremol-No was making noise. This may have been the majority of the problem, at this point I don't know. The part of the claw where the stop rod is pined has some slop, only a few thousands but its enough to cause a rattle when the bridge is secured in the non-floating mode, no pressure back or forth at this point. The quick fix for this was to slide the stop all the way to the claw and set the locking screw.

 

[Oso]

Trying to type on my iPhone so excuse the shortness.
A Rasmus has an acrylic flat urethane not oil. So any cleaner is ok no wax
A little lemon pledge is ok sprayed On the cloth first.

As for the silicones in Pledge they never bothered me in refinish work, never had adhesion or fisheye problems. I have refinished necks in nitro and urethane with no issues when pledge has been on them.
Any decent prep cleaner takes care of that.
Any as for a cleaner for flat you can also get a nice one at BMW since they have flat versions too.

The blower doesn't fit in that guitar but you could do the same thing with a mini switch. 4pdt

 

[Eagle1]

The T No is a whole heap of trouble in the long term , the hinges need slop so as not to add too much friction and that slop is a rattle and a clunk when you rest your hand on it locked . Best avoided .

 

[walterw]

yeah, i haven't dealt with too many tremol-nos, but the ones i did mess with struck me as kind of fragile and rickety, something you wouldn't want for rock-solid bridge locking.

 

[Sixstring]

This is my first Tremol-no and it seems to be ok, aside from the rattle. I don't use the trem that often and it is nice to be able to lock it down for the accessional drop D so the design is rather handy. As for the slop at the hinge point I think that could have been made a little more precise, but it is what it is. For now I will live with it until I find something better that's just as convenient.