Great-bad - beyond ugly-at the Monterey Blues fest- Bonamassa and Ford content.

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  1. Steve Snider

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    Here is the short Version-

    Joe Bonamassa comes on around 2:30 Saturday afternoon and Sunday it is still the buzz of the festival BTW. Amazing. Newspaper coverage and all the chatter indicates that the performance by Joe will go down as one of the best in 23 years or however long the fest has been around. I laughed my ass off as I never expected him to blow me away like he did but he was absolutely incredible from every aspect. Haven't been that impressed since Shawn Lane in '92. Joe brought it on every level. GREAT!!!!:JAM


    After Joe B's set I was in a place for performers to get food and drinks and saw Robben Ford . He probably had heard the set JB did as well. He later did a closing song with Keb Mo on the main stage and around 9:30 took a small stage and performed a horrible set that was something I had a hard time believing.

    Maybe it was the fact that Robben was booked on a small stage reserved for local bands and lesser known national acts or in tandem with his friend Volker Striffler playing the main stage along with Joe B and others but here he was on a barely elevated stage with a killer band consisting of Toss Panos and Carlton's bad ass kid on bass.

    He seemed bothered from the beginning but as time went on he seemed like a very angry man on the verge of a severe breakdown. He was disturbed by the cameras in the audience using flashes, he was disturbed with the soundman ignoring his requests and ended up playing the worst show I have ever seen him do or maybe anyone. It was the deconstruction of a great guitarist who completely lost it. Kicking at people, cussing at people during songs, just seemed to be so pissed he could not play very well, his playing was real angry . I have seen him more than 20 times but this was unreal.

    I was in the front row sitting next to my pro bass player buddy. We could not believe what we were seeing.It was incredible in a very sad way. I feel very bad for him as nobody I saw today could have anything good to say about him at all. His band killed but he was awful IMHO. I am a fan so this was a shock. Everyone can have a bad day but this was way different.
     
  2. JoeB63

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    OK, so he was in a bad mood -- but what was specifically wrong with his playing?

    And more importantly, how was his tone?!? ;)
     
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    He was playing really bad for Robben. Noise. His porno soundtrack record was better. He sucked. The last two songs offered a little glimpse of what we expect but up until that it was just uninspired angry playing that said nothing.

    His tone sucked. Real bright. Super Reverb and Dumble cranked up loud. 1 2x12 and the Super which was either a 2X12 or 4X10. 2290, Dumbleator, Variac, Sakashta and a Tele. There were moments of brilliance but out of 85 minutes, less than 10.

    The band was great .
     
  4. Heinz W

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    Everyone has off days. Joe B. played a show here a few months ago (Palace Theater in Greensburg, Pa.) that I almost went to. A friend and Joe B. fan that did go said, quote, "it sucked". He didn't play long, would start a tune then stop, start something else, etc. And he only played for a little over an hour and left.

    I was shocked when he told me that. I'm so glad I didn't go to that show, but I still like Joe a lot. An amazing player. I have all his albums and two DVDs. Joe tours a lot, and that can wear you down. I can't fault the guy for being human. I am still looking forward to seeing him live.

    Apparently it was Robben's turn to have a bad day. You can't let one bad gig ruin your impressions of any musician IMO since we're all human, and we all have our bad days.
     
  5. Dave Orban

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    When I saw Robben in NYC last week, there was more than a little bit of that edge. He seemed "off" and was rankled by the few (non-flash) cameras in the audience who had not heeded the management's request for "no cameras."

    His tone wasn't bad -- a Super, a Twin, and a Zen Drive and a delay pedal -- but it wasn't his Dumble tone... I found his playing to be off, as well... although not to the extent that you've described.

    Didn't make me want to stop seeing him perform, but I did wonder if there was some other dynamic in his life or on this tour that was affecting him like this...
     
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    Caught the Annapolis, MD show a couple of weeks ago...KILLER! He was in great form that night. His band was kickin' and his ZenDrive sounded great.
    Now, I had an off night at a wedding we played on Sat...it happens.-m
     
  7. Dave Orban

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    No doubt. I've seen him about a dozen or more times, and while he played well during this show, something seemed to be bothering him...
     
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    Ouch..We all have off days...
     
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    The Monterey Blues Festival has performances on some pretty sad stages for local
    and lesser known acts to play on, while the main stage in the huge arena has the featured players of course ...

    Once Robben found out he was on one of these sad stages he might have felt pretty let down ...
    Plus, from knowing some of the sound guys they use for these small stages pretty well ...
    that wouldn't have helped out his attitude any ...

    Why they choose not to put Robben Ford on the main stage makes little sense to me ...?
    And it probably didn't make any sense to him either ...
     
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    Maybe they were saving it for Kanye West...?!? :jo
     
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    Sometimes I don't know what to think of Robben. He is a monstrously talented guitar player. I've seen him snarl about cameras before. Heard him once utter a "cut that **** out" over the mic before in response to someone snapping a pic of him. Not sure what's up with that. There are times when I think he's just a little too full of himself and at times I wonder if he does have some "problem" with cameras. But I think if a person does indeed have a "camera problem" in this industry they'd best find a way to deal with it. Maybe Robben hasn't noticed it yet but cameras and concerts just kinda' go hand-in-hand.


    Tom
     
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    Yeah, I've thought that more than once.
     
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    It was the Brown Acid...that'll make you crabby.

    ****in hippie.
     
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    Everybody has bad days, Robben should have been on the big stage, but, ultimately Robben is probably still pissed that Tag is not on the gear page anymore...
     
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    Why...? Even Robben outgrew THAT tone, what, over 15 years ago...?
     
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    Lol!
     
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    He is a professional musician. You make the best of what you are faced with, you don't pout and kick at fans in the crowd. I have seen some big time talents on tiny stages, and they still gave it their all and played great shows.

    Mike
     
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    Well...yeah...BUT, to me, there is nothing worse than a poor soundman.
    All those years of practice go down the toilet because the floor tom is louder than the guitar. Pisses me off too.
     
  19. pbradt

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    He's not? I musta missed something.
     
  20. pbradt

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    THis is correct. We had to read Ray out big time at a gig not too long ago. His excuse for mailing it in and getting wasted? "The vibe was bad."

    I was thankful I didn't have to read him out, because I probably would have punched him in the mouth. I was also thankful the gig was not in public. THe next gig he did just fine.

    I can accept being pissed at what you've been dealt, but you don't take it out on the audience. I'm not a "professional" musician but I do my best to deliver a good performance every time out, not for them, but for me.
     

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