Found this guy on line and bought from him a couple times. I just bought his last 3 long plate Mullard ECC83`s for $35 a piece, but he said he has a huge stash of short plates for $30. I think the Tele smooth plates are about the same price. He tests everything and is an easy guy to deal with. Just a heads up for those who don`t like the Ebay game. His site is: www.commonsenseaudio.com I know there are quite a few of you out there who would like to try the old stuff, and this is the 1st guy I found to sell at an affordable price.