Grover Tuners

[skintknuckle]

So, I have a '96 Les Paul custom that is hard to tune. Seems to stay in tune and intonates well. But, it is difficult to tune. I go back and forth between whether I think it is the tuners or the nut. Some of the tuners seem to "skip gears". Questions:
1) Any recommendations on dressing the nut?
2) Are there any "drop-in" replacements for the factory Grovers? I don't really want to drill any holes.
3) Why does Gibson continue to use Grovers when so many people replace them?

 

[Pete Galati]

I thought Gibson was using Kluson style tuners these days. Grovers sounds more like an Epi thing.

I've never really run into any problems with Grovers. The bullseye Grovers that came on my Hamer Sunburst seemed a little dodgy until I adjusted the screws on the buttons. After that they worked great.

 

[skintknuckle]

Pete, I appreciate the reply. It's definitely a Gibson. I did a little internet search and found that the Customs from the '90s seem to have Grovers. In regard to the "screws on the buttons", are you talking about the screw that holds the "tuning key" to the gear housing? WB

 

[Pete Galati]

Pete, I appreciate the reply. It's definitely a Gibson. I did a little internet search and found that the Customs from the '90s seem to have Grovers. In regard to the "screws on the buttons", are you talking about the screw that holds the "tuning key" to the gear housing? WB

The screw that sort of holds the button on. It also adjusts the tightness of the tuner. I'm not sure what problem you're having though, and these were Grovers from an earlier era.

Yeah, I wasn't sure if Gibson did something different for the Kustoms for tuners. I'm surprised they didn't use Schallers. The tuners on my '82 Standard appear to be Schallers, but I'm not sure who actually made them.

But I kind of think the Kluson style tuners on my more recent '98 Les Paul Junior/Special are made by Grover. I don't have any pics handy of those, but I think they're labeled Gibson, but made by Grover. I suppose maybe all their tuners come from Grover these days.

I wonder if a new set of Grover Rotomatics would be a slight upgrade, and be a drop-in fit.

 

[anibas]

Grover also has a series of locking tuners that are direct replacements for their regular models that might be worth looking at-Stewmac sells them online.

 

[hankzee]

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Hankzee