Guitar lead tone on Pet Sounds "That's Not Me"

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  1. marmalade cream

    marmalade cream Member

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    So the production is totally wild on this album, but does anyone know how the tone of the lead guitar on this song was achieved?



    I'm talking about the reverb-drenched lick that first comes in at 0:38. That tone has always enchanted me.

    Besides the reverb, it sounds doubled to me. Maybe a 12-string electric with a regular electric? Or maybe the lower part of the double is the 6-string bass that Brian Wilson liked to use?
     
  2. S. F. Sorrow

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    Electric 12 string for sure.
     
  3. Cal Webway

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    Agree. always loved it. Always thought it was a 12 string electric enhanced by amp and studio 'verb, etc.
    Possibly doubled by gtr. That ol' Spector influence

    The percussive lower part w studio echo is great, which would come to fruition w other Pet Sound songs,
    and ultimately, "Good Vibrations"

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  4. Jon C

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    You should hear Brian Wilson do "Pet Sounds" live with his amazing band, which includes The Wondermints and other stellar players like Jeffrey Foskett ... it is a beautiful thing to see those complex tunes (and Smile) done live, and so well.
     
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    I heard many PS songs in the tour BW did w Jeff Beck




    (what the heck went awry with the plans of JB later collaborating w BW?!)

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  6. marmalade cream

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    I would love to see them live. I have seen the documentary on youtube about the (re)making of Smile, the version that was released in 2004, which had the first live performance of the album. Mind blowing stuff, Wilson is definitely the Gershwin of his era.
     
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    I saw a thing about the recording of that album. They showed some footage, and had interviews with players, etc. who took part. The wrecking crew played most of that. Tommy Tedesco told about one song where Brian had him play a mandolin tuned like a tenor guitar (something Tedesco had been known to do before). Might that be it. Also, they said the one Beach Boy who played on almost all of that stuff was Carl. Said he was like Brian's right hand man. They'd be playing in the room and he'd be playing too but sitting next to Brian at the console, plugged directly into the board, usually playing a 12 string. So also might be him. Effects thrown on later.
     
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    Yeah, I'm very lucky. We saw the Pet Sounds tour in ~2001 (?), the Smile tour (2008?), and another one lwhen he toured with Jeff Beck (a huge Brian Wilson fan). They did a lot of Pet Sounds and a lot of Smile on that one.

    Three superb live shows, Brian has surrounded himself with top notch musicians who love his music and they make it shine.
     
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    This tune off of the new upcoming MiniMansions album features Brian Wilson. Readily apparent influence.

    http://youtu.be/--a78z8kvww
     
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    That be Carl Wilson with the shades on???
     
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    Such a great song! sounds like a 12 string to me...
     
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    12 string through a fender reverb tank and maybe some slight tape warble. High end cut on the verb. Great sound. Great record.
     
  14. marmalade cream

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    Thanks for the replies, y'all. This album is full of so many wonderful little moments. Sounds like a 12-string is definitely key here. I do remember hearing about that mandolin/tenor guitar thing as well, I believe that is the opening lick on Wouldn't It Be Nice?

    Btw my question came about because I've been writing some spacey country-ish stuff, and I was watching Where the Wild Things Are last night. There's a beautiful song on the soundtrack with a very similar tone to Pet Sounds, and I thought to myself - I want this tone on my songs!



    The lead guitar comes in around 3:20.
     
  15. marmalade cream

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    Can any of the Eventide pedals (like the Space) do a credible Fender reverb sound? I've been thinking hard about getting an H9 this year...
     
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    In the book on the wrecking crew they mentioned Brian calling up one of the guitarists, I don't remember who, on a Sunday saying he had a 12 string part he wanted to record. The guitarist didn't have a 12 string so Brian called a local music store and had a 12 string and an amp delivered to the studio. After the session Brian told the guitarist, "don't forget to take your new guitar and amp with you".
     
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    The guitar reverb is almost undoubtedly a live chamber from Western. Now East/West, those three chambers are still in use, and the live room of Studio 3, where much of PS was recorded, looks nearly identical to how it did then. A legendary room. Might be Gold Star.
     
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    Hmm. I had an H9 for a while and really didn't like enough about it to keep it. I don't think you'd find that sound on an H9.
     
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    That's indeed Carl in the pic playing a Ric, though I don't know about the recording.

    What a great song.
     
  20. tonyhay

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    According to the liner notes, electric 12 string guitar was played by Glen Campbell on that track.
     

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