Guitars with 0 Radius Necks?

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  1. slapppy7

    slapppy7 Member

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    I really like the idea after reading about the Vigier Shawn Lane guitar. Are there any other guitar that have a 0 radius or close to a 0 radius?
    I really want to get something that is fast to play. Also, I don't want it to have a floyd rose or edge tremolo. I think I would like the tremolo on the Vigier Shawn Lane or something similar to it.
     
  2. slapppy7

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    Oh yeah, I really like how the scale is 24 and 3/4 on the Vigier.
     
  3. sysexguy

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    Why not get a Vigier Shawn Lane? Great axe (we have a Signature in stock here)

    If budget is a concern, an old Hagstrom II is near flat. Frets are small though (my pref but that's personal) and forget the trem. You could find one that you wouldn't feel bad about changing the guts...a bit thin for a fulcrum trem....

    Andy
     
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    I don't think a flat radius would be any faster to play than lets say a 16".

    My son's Ibanez RG is 16" and he can crank 7 to 8 notes/sec on a good day.
     
  5. Jim Soloway

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    I've been playing a 16" radius for several years and it's what we use on our guitars. Relative to most guitars, it's VERY flat. The change from 16" to 0 is not really very big at all.
     
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    What brand of Note-ometer are you using to measure that?
     
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    I think 0 radius would be a mathematical line, single dimension. ;)

    You probably mean infinite radius (or a very large radius) which would be narrower/flatter?
     
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    Yep, they just call it flat on vigiers site. I don't know where I got 0 radius from....
     
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    Adobe Audition slowed WAY down. And yeah, he is that FAST. Shreds with the best of them (and types at 175 wpm). Damn, I wish I still had his reflexes.
     
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    Funny how horn players talk about tone not speed. Where did we (I'm guilty too) get the idea that guitar playing was an athletic event?
     
  11. cswolfe

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    Very cool, Jim. Love the larger radii.
     
  12. buddastrat

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    I'm with Flyin' Brian. I've never played a super low actioned/flat radius'd guitar that had good tone. I'll take a good sound over easy playing. I believe you need medium to high action as part of a good tone recipe. It allows the string to fully vibrate. The super low action guitars always sound plinky to me.

    Maybe there are some somewhere but I've played lots of high end jobs and unless you play like a limp wristed ____, notes don't smack back with girth and stand tall.
     
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    I don't mean to be a wet blanket but to me that's a pretty average speed. It's not that it sucks or anything but it's nothing to call home about either.. I'm glad you're proud of your son though. Those ibanez necks can be plenty nice :)
     
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    I'm not sure why you conjoin flat radius and super low action. The two are by no means synonymous.
     
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    You mean flat radius with super low action? I know they don't have to be, but when you're talking modern day electrics, the reason most want the flat radius is for low action.

    I certainly wouldn't want to give up a comfy radius for a flat board and then still keep the higher action!
     
  16. Jim Soloway

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    Clearly you and I have a different idea of what consititutes a "comfy" radius.
     
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    +1

    Too much emphasis on quantity and not enough on quality. ;)
     
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    Travis Bean guitars have flat fretboards.Guys either love them or hate them.I love the way they play but they make Les Pauls seem light in comparison.If anyone runs into an Artist 1000 #88 ,let me know.It was stolen in1978.[Istill miss it]I still have aTB 1000 standard that I still play alot ! Hey you never know!
     
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    Wasn't the Shawn Lane Vigier more like a '20 radius then actually flat...
    or is there simply that not much of a difference...?
     
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    Warrior makes quality instruments with very flat necks.
     

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