Gypsy-Jazz Guitar porn (pics inside)

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  1. Pascal

    Pascal Member

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    Hi all!

    I told you about it a few weeks ago, it finally arrived... my Gypsy Jazz guitar, built by Dutch luthier Ger Boonstra and bought from Gypsy Jazz great Dorado Schmitt!

    Visit the gallery here.
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  2. cranqued

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    Wow, gorgeous guitar! And nice photos. How are you liking the tone/playability?
     
  3. stratofied

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    Cool guitar! How does it sound?
     
  4. michael.e

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    Here is a pic of mine that I just let go of.........
    Someday, once again!

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  5. Pascal

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    Thanks guys!

    I actually tried to reply earlier today, but my post vanished as soon as I clicked on "submit reply"...

    So... regarding the playability... the neck is not a copy of the very thick Selmer necks, it has a more modern and confortable shape and easier to get used to (actually, I felt at home immediately). More difficult for me is to adapt to the relatively high action (the guitar was setup to Dorado's taste), and string tension: while I'm using .11 Argentine strings, the rather long scale (66.5cm) results in a similar tension as with .13 strings on a regular flat top. I might take the guitar to a local luthier to have it setup to my taste... and now have to grow muscles in my left hand (my other guitars are an electric and a nylon-string).

    Regarding the tone... it is the typical Gypsy Jazz tone: these guitars were designed to cut through an acoustic band. The tone is on the bright side, with a lot of high-mids. But most of all, the guitar is extremely responsive and loud when played properly, with a very powerful, snappy attack.
    On this particular guitar, it is very nice and well balanced. Not too nasal. It can also bark when needed and projects very well.

    To hear some typical gyspy jazz tones, if you're not familiar with the genre, do a search on youtube.com for videos of Bireli Lagrene, Stochelo Rosenberg, Angelo Debarre, Romane... or Dorado Schmitt (previous owner of the guitar), etc. You should find plenty of them.
     
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    The back and sides are amazing! I hope that I wasn't the only one that could only think of one thing when I first saw the back...hehehe
     
  7. Pascal

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    You mean... you found it kind of... say... sexy?

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  8. michael.e

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    Hey Pascal,

    The longer scale "Petite Bouche" [spelling] guitars are meant to take the 10's. I use Argentines as well.

    The 11's were meant for the shorter scale "D" hole, rhythm guitars

    My set runs:
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    22
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    36
    45

    I once tried the 11's on my guitar and the mid's were out of control. The guitar lost it's sweetness. It went from Voxy, to overly Marshally......

    I always have said that if my guitar was an amp, it would be an AC-30!

    The tone of these guitars is incredible.

    M.E.
     
  9. Pascal

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    Hi Michael, thanks for your recommendations.

    Its actually my first Selmer-style, so I am experimenting... I know that traditionally the Petite Bouche models are strung with 10's and the Grande Bouche with 11's... but I actually followed the recommendations of (U.K. luthier) John LeVoi, who recommends 11's on all Selmer styles, saying it gives a better balance. It also appeared that the guitar was strung with 11's when I received it from Dorado...
    Note also that its scale is slightly shorter than usual: 665mm instead of 670mm.

    Anyway, as I told you, I'm experimenting, so I'm planning to try 10's too (and also different brands, like Galli, etc), and see what suits me best. Maybe an hybrid set would be the best solution, but I'm not sure I can buy indiviual strings here... Well, we'll see.

    And so far, I'm having fun anyway, so it's all good!
     
  10. QuickDraw

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    Beautiful!!!! that is just stunning. BTW have you seen the DVD of Dorado Schmitt? Oh my GOD can that dude play!!!!!!
     
  11. dirtypool

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    Thats a gorgeous guitar Pascal
    Why did Dorado got rid of it?

    My guitarteacher has a Ger Boonstra too and I love that guitar
    Beaten and battered ( the man lived a rough live, 7 years sober now but threw away about 20 of his best years.
    Was getting the attention of the Washington Post and toured with the Finland National Ballet when Stochelo was a kid..but alcohol and drug took over his control.......) but the tone is outstanding

    Howmuch did you pay for that, or is that a rude question, just curious.

    I love that other guitar on the pics too :RoCkIn
    Would be my choise if I had the money..
    Very distinctive look with those F-holes

    Another friend of mine started a forum btw overhere http://gypsyswing.nl
    Maybe you guys can take a lkook and participate.
    Now Im the only one who posts new topics :NUTS

    grtz Richard
     
  12. Pascal

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    Hi dirtypool,

    I honestly don't know why Dorado sold the guitar. If I believe him, he loved it and letting it go was a real heartbreaker.... but if I believe Ger Boonstra, it is an old guitar he built years ago and recently gave to Dorado, allegedly for his son... oh, and the guitars he builds now are so much better, I should get a new one from him instead of buying this old one from someone else (even if it is an OK guitar).

    Honestly, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle... I wouldn't be surprised if Dorado and a few other respected (but not popular) players did regularly improve their income by getting good deals from luthiers and selling the guitars shortly after...

    Anyway, all I know is that the guitar was probably worth 2000-2500€ new (considering the price of the "standard" Boonstra guitars), that this one was good enough to be singled-out and picked up by Dorado (and Tchavolo: see pictures of Dorado, and Tchavolo playing my guitar in Boonstra's workshop)... and that I finally got it for 1600€ (was first advertised at 1900€ on Dorado's website... did not find any taker).

    I put a new set of Argentine today by noon... it is now 9:30pm, and I still can't put the guitar down.


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  13. dirtypool

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    This Ger must be a very humble person, he gave a guitar to my pal as well, because he recovered from a very bad habit and even gave the guitar the name Victoire.
     
  14. Pascal

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    Why wouldn't you visit his workshop, if you're interested?
    The next time I have one or two days off in the Netherlands, I surely will...

    It's just outside of Amsterdam, and he seems to be very friendly, I suppose he'd be happy to show you his work.
     
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    Oh, I will go there soon
    With my pal, he wants an oval hole guitar so Ill go with him
     
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    Great guitar Pascal. Cool that it belonged to Dorado! How did the 11's work out? I have a Dell Arte Homage Selmer guitar. I may try 11's on it just to see how they sound.
     
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    That's a pretty geetar!! I'm still real happy with my AJL 503 from Finland.

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  18. dirtypool

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    That's a beautiful picture Seamus :)
     
  19. Shawn Tubbs

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    Thanks,

    My friend in California snapped that picture while I was out there with my guitar.

    Shawn

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