Hard tail strat love?

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  1. DrJamie

    DrJamie Silver Supporting Member

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    Why do I want one? Because I've never owned one? I've got a great MM Albert Lee hard tail, P-90s, a couple great Teles. Is a strat a strat without the trem? I'm not Robert Cray. Help.
     
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    Haven't had anyone come up to me and tell me mine isn't. From a purist point of view?...
     
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    All the strats I've owned have been wammy bar models. I currently have one that I want to get rid of because I never play it. I've gone back to tele's.

    If (when) I buy another, it'll likely be a hardtail. At least, that's how I feel now.

    Yes, it's still a strat. Leo offered them a long time ago and R. Cray has as much strat tone as anyone else.
     
  4. DrJamie

    DrJamie Silver Supporting Member

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    Of course both are strats. I like the trem to add a slight vocal quality to a chord that is sustained, but I think I'd like to eliminate the "give", from bending strings, pulling on the trem. I know I can lock the trem down to the body. Any tonal differences anybody has observed?
     
  5. clothwiring

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    I've only played a few hardtails and they were older so my observations might not be spot on but I found them to be a little throatyer and my assumption is that it's more wood and less metal that gave it those tonal qualities. Personally I like the floating trem. The right ones are still very resonant and I have no complaints...but then again it's no secret I'm in love with Strats. lol
     
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    Yeah you can get a strat sound out of a hardtail. but if you're playing a lot of clean jimi or srv style you'll notice the lack of a good trem. strats get some of their pingy tone because of the trem block
     
  7. Zexcoil

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    I've got a MIM Robert Cray Hardtail.

    It is a very stratty strat. Best quack in 2 & 4 of any of my strats, I think.
     
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    I had a rare Fender CS relic hardtail. Amazing guitar. If it had a fatter neck, I'd still own it. And yes, it was very 'stratty' and resonant.
     
  9. michaelprice83

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    "stratty" but not exactly. i mean, there's a huge difference between trem strats with zinc blocks and trem strats with good steel or titanium blocks. to think a strat with no block and string-through would sound like a trem strat (the strats we've heard on all the recordings over the years) is a bit of a stretch. i bet its pretty close though.
     
  10. Ogre

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    There is not a big difference. If you don't like the give in a trem-equipped Strat, it is a simple fix. And yes, I have owned dozens, several of which were hardtails.
     
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    All of my guitars are hard tails. I've been playing for 30 years and prefer the tuning stability of hard tails. I hope that makes sense. I'm not the greatest wordsmith.
     
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    I had a really nice black 2004 hardtail Strat. I wish I could've afforded to keep it. I thought it played great.
     
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    I think the tonal variance is minimal - a hardtail strat is still unmistakably a strat.

    V
     
  14. James

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    Oh gosh, I love hardtail Strats. If I could find one with a 7/8th sized body which still had that vintage Strat look, I'd be all over it like a cheap suit!!

    :rotflmao

    :RoCkIn
     
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    back in the early "90s, i had a "54 ht. that guitar rocked.
     
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    [​IMG]62 100% gennie custom color hardtail, sweet with awesome sustain!:RoCkIn
     
  17. Zexcoil

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    I used to have a Princeton just like that Blackface with the white knobs.
     
  18. GM1

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    I have a 56 Hard Tail that is one of the best Strats I've ever owned. It has been thru a lot I had to have the bridge pup replaced. It has been worked on by Scott Lentz, he put one of his Alnico II pups in the bridge. Hard Tails are lighter than trem models, and sound a bit more like a Tele.
     
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    +1, and they have more sustain!
    Here the one, Scott Lentz built for me.

    [​IMG]
     
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    i got a matching pair![​IMG]
     

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