Hartman Flanger + Distortion?

[bobbyatomic]

Does anyone know how the Hartman flanger handles distortion? There's plenty of demos covering The Police and Pink Floyd, but they're all kinda clean. I was wondering how well it does the wooshy wooshy chugga chugga sound?

 

[bobbyatomic]

Anyone?
Come on, I can't be the only one who loves wooshy chugga chugga?

 

[ManUBobby7]

I just got one and love it. I love the clean so much ( not just floyd and police, but your own thing, its a creative sound) that I didnt play with dist too much yet, when I did go thru my chute cc04 with dist , i seem to recall a Robin Trower "bridge of sighs" type of feel iirc. I'll
try some more and get back to you.

 

[OotMagroot]

I run mine before dirt. Instant Alex Lifeson "The Spirit of Radio" sounds!

 

[bobbyatomic]

Thank you Man, and congrats on getting the pedal, it's a killer flanger. Would very much appreciate it if you could let me know if it'll do Van Halen type sounds, I know he used an MRX, but the Hartman is just too good with cleans to not consider.

 

[Mr. Limbic]

i love it with distortion...listen to Gilmour 1978 solo album for an idea

 

[ManUBobby7]

Thank you Man, and congrats on getting the pedal, it's a killer flanger. Would very much appreciate it if you could let me know if it'll do Van Halen type sounds, I know he used an MRX, but the Hartman is just too good with cleans to not consider.

Well I don't know if it'll do "aint talkin bout love" or the opening to "atomic punk" ...... you know what, screw it, I'll play those songs now and be back .....



OK back, here's my take - with my hi compression amp, it sounds more modern heavy grunge nickelback, and I didnt tweak it to get the marshal eddie sound, but anyways:

The Hartman still gave a bit of a compressed sound to the distortion making all strings blend into one , again think "Bridge of sighs" When I played "Aint talkin bout love" my strat gave me better note articulation than the humbuckered lespaul, I'd say playing covers , yes, playing tribute band ,no youd want a diff flanger, cuz Eddie articulates so many single note runs, i found it sounded washy - again YMMV, could've been my amp.

 

[bobbyatomic]

Thanks Man, very greatful for you giving it a go, appreciate it.

 

[digiTED]

Yes

It can get bright with some dirt, like an OCD, in my signal chain (I run it after dirt), but an EQ tweak at the guitar handles it fine.

 

[ManUBobby7]

Yes

It can get bright with some dirt, like an OCD, in my signal chain (I run it after dirt), but an EQ tweak at the guitar handles it fine.

I don't know if an EQ tweak at the guitar would do it, at least with dist, I dunno about OD. I tried the Hartman turned up, and back and it gave this compressy mushed together atmospheric sheen - in a good way, but I think with Van Halen, it would take the punch out?!? you know...

Maybe you 've experienced different, love to hear it, Ive had the pedal only 2 days ... BUT IT ROCKS MAN!!!!!!

 

[malabarmusic]

Well I don't know if it'll do "aint talkin bout love" or the opening to "atomic punk" ......

Nope. Won't do it. That's why I sold the Hartman and kept my vintage MXR, even with its 3-prong plug.

Don't get me wrong -- the Hartman is brilliant and I LOVE those Lifeson and Gilmour tones, as those are two of my personal all-time fave guitarists. But getting "the wooshy wooshy chugga chugga sound" is why I use a flanger, and the MXR is the be-all end-all for that.

Side note: With the Speed knob "off" the MXR can do its own version of the "Filter Matrix" sound. I never A/B'd it with the Hartman, but IMO it's at least "good enough" for those who don't use it as their base tone.

- DB

 

[Occam]

I love wooshy chugga chugga almost as I love wooshy with huge sounding fuzz...I don't have a Hartman though. I have a Barracuda flanger and it certainly plays well with distortion.

 

[bobbyatomic]

Thanks everyone, this pretty much confirms what I suspected, I'm going to have to buy some purple spray paint and an MXR.

 

[RSRD]

I think it does it all. I never have problems with it in front or in the loop with the OD of my shiva. Its a phenomenal pedal.

 

[ChorusCrackpot]

I did consider using a Hartman flanger with distortion. Maybe in the future?

 

[malabarmusic]

It's not that the Hartman can't handle distortion -- it does so beautifully.

The point is that the resulting tone is VERY different from what the OP asked about.

For example:

 

[Led Sabblin]

flange before distortion is better IMO it sounds less narrow than having the dist going into the flange