Hate for Technology

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  1. BetterMeThanYou

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    Just want to see if anyone out there is feeling the same way. I don't hate technology per se--I am a software engineer after all... but when it comes to creativity and making music, I do hate when it starts to call for attention in either the process or the product. For example, nothing is worse than autotune ruining a vocal.

    And I really worry about all the people who spend hundreds of $$$$ every month to always buy a new device. Learning all these computers and boxes in my opinion is a waste of time better spent expressing something.

    There's something to be said for keeping music human and removing the gloss and perfection that all the gizmos and doo-dads add.
     
  2. Astronaut FX

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    It all depends on your perspective. As a Gen X'r I'm young enough not to be afraid of technology, but I'm old enough to remember how things were done without computers.

    With regard to how technology has impacted music, yes, there is a lot that might be considered "cheating" but it all depends on how you use it and what you want to accomplish. For those who are not just guitar players, but who are also very much into sound design, technology allows you to really push the envelope as to what can be done with the instrument.
     
  3. kludge

    kludge The droid you're looking for

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    "Technology" = "stuff invented after I was a teenager".

    Uphill both ways.

    Guitars are technology, too. They are the product of thousands of years of continuous refinement of woodworking, metallurgy, and painting. The fretboard is based on 12 tone scale. That 12 tone scale? Technology. Harmony? Technology. Et cetera.

    The music we play is itself a product of technology.
     
  4. AParrotLooksAt4O

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    I dont hate technology, but I hate when technology is used to deceive, especially in art.

    In terms of everyday life, we are all WAY too connected, and yet so disconnected. Thats a cliche line as of late, but its true. Its slowly ruining us in many ways.
     
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    Nurk2 "Ignore Everybody" ~Hugh MacLeod

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    I, for one, welcome our robot overlords.
     
  7. T Dizz

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    don't hate tech.. but I hate these...
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  8. twoheadedboy

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    These new-fangled electric guitars and fuzz pedals are ruining music. Back in my day, you expressed yourself with an acoustic instrument. Kids these days waste time twisting knobs which could better be spent expressing something.

    These new-fangled acoustic guitars are ruining music. Back in my day, you expressed yourself with your voice and maybe a drum. Kids these days waste time strumming strings which could be better spent expressing something.

    And so on...
     
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  9. RTR

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    I with you on this. I have a teenage daughter and the art of conversation is lost with her entire generation. Her cell usage proves that every month. Thousands of texts, mere minutes of talk. The talk is to her mom and me.
     
  10. twoheadedboy

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    Teenagers don't talk on the phone any more. They talk in person, and text on the phone, both of which are meaningful forms of social interaction. I'm not sure if you've noticed this, but phone conversations are often mostly fluff. Texting allows you to get to the point without having to drop everything.

    Humans are a highly social species, with mechanisms and needs for social interaction that have evolved over hundreds of thousands of years. If you think that one device is going to undo all that, you're falling into the same trap as previous generations of parents: erroneously concluding that things are going wrong with the current generation of youth, simply because the current generation is doing things differently from how your generation did them.
     
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  11. Mike H

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    I love technology. I hate people who use and abuse it to prey on others. Cyber crime is a plague of the 21st century.
     
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    Technology is great! You can make $25 a day with this item;

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    I feel similarly about Photoshop and Lightroom, as you state about Autotune. Curiously, I can find little support for that, what I feel is, a perfectly analogous comparison.
     
  14. aynirar27

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    VR porn is making great strides, so there's that.
     
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    Yes, it would have been clearer to say that both texting and in-person conversation can allow meaningful social interaction, just as talking on the phone can.
     
  16. BrewDrinkRepeat

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    Technology can be awesome when used as a tool... and is absolutely awful when used as a crutch.

    I have far more freedom, flexibility and power in my small home studio (based around Logic Pro) than in any high-end professional studio I recorded at in the pre-DAW days... but it's important to recognize how to wield that power properly to the benefit of the art, and not as the art.
     
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    I'm a fan of new tech in general. Not everything is going to be a home run though. Still waiting on robot tuners being improved. At this time I'm not impressed with the end results, but some tech I love. The Animoog program for the iPad comes to mind as some great technology in action.

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  18. Madsen

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    there is digital technology, analog technology, acoustic technology. my favorite music combines them all in ways that serve the piece.
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    A tool is a tool.

    If it helps you build what you want to build, it is good.
     
  20. Tylenol Jones

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    Like everything, technology gives us tools. When used properly, they can give us something great. Look at the Beatles remasters of 2009. They largely sound much much better than what was available beforehand.

    And now look at the autotune compressed mess of the loudness war-affected titles of today. When used to extremes, every tool can do a horrible job.
     

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