Have to fire a guitar player

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  1. beatnik

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    He is not keeping up with learning the new material and the clincher is he has now put one of the guy's day jobs at risk with some illegal behavior at a gig.

    I have been tasked to let him go b/c I was his biggest defender until this last event. So any advice in dealing with this? I like him and he is a good player but risking a guys livelihood is unacceptable (this was known and discussed when each of us joined).
     
  2. CyberFerret

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    Pretty much exactly as you said it to us... He put someone ELSE's livelihood in jeopardy.

    He's crossed that line in the sand - knowing that the line was there. No arguments about it - Tell him to get all his gear and go. Straight up.
     
  3. Tone_Terrific

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    I don't know how you could ever find another guitar player:sarcasm

    ...that won't bring some sort of baggage :huh but, when they gotta go, they gotta go.
     
  4. acguitar84

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    Come on, Neil. You'll learn what it's like to fire an employee.
     
  5. CowTipton

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    Just be up front about it.
    The band decided to let him go because it wasn't working out.

    If the whole thing takes longer than 5-6 mins you're dragging it out too long. You're there to let him go, it's not a debate.
     
  6. maccampbells

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    So he smoked weed in front of a patron who knew someone in the band through work?
     
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    Be quick and concise. "You blew it, you put others in jeopardy by your actions, You're out. Good Luck."
     
  8. RockDC

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    I had to let go of a drummer. I looked him in the eye and said, "We've decided you aren't the right fit for the band." He said, "Why?" And I said, "You know why." He just turned and left... seen him a handful of times since. He was better off and so were we.
     
  9. Seraphine

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    Don't know if you have keys in the band.. But first learn this tune together.. Then decide to fire your gtr player... or NOT!

     
  10. GtrWiz

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    I'm curious too.
     
  11. SteveO

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    I've had to fire a few people through the years, and it's never easy. Regardless, the threat of a band member losing his day job over this guy's actions makes it pretty much a nonissue-he can't stay.
     
  12. lhallam

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    You already know how to do this.

    Firing people sucks no matter how you look at it. However, I think most would agree that he brought it upon himself and your reasoning is just.

    So no reason to feel bad or be reticent. If he wants to behave a certain way, he needs to find others that are more compatible.
     
  13. Jesus freak

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    My monies on Coke in the restroom ;)
     
  14. SteveO

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    Back in the day we weren't allowed to have alcohol on stage, but now you can't even have soft drinks in the restroom? I guess they're really cracking down these days...
























    :p
     
  15. Seraphine

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    No Coke. Pepsi.
     
  16. Jesus freak

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    ^ well you do need a straw :)
     
  17. Seraphine

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    ...so a hundred dollar bill is too much for a straw?
     
  18. SteveO

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    I always liked those semi-transparent straws with all the loops in them...
     
  19. Seraphine

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    In this case we'll need one of those coke bottles heated and stretched and twisted and surreal...
     
  20. Swain

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    No need to bring up the work ethic. Just the fact that he crossed the line about something he'd already agreed to.

    Unless he's a kid, he'll totally understand.

    Like others have said, if it takes more than 5 minutes you're not doing this correctly.

    Call him up, or go see him in person and say "you know that when you did that thing you agreed not to do, that you decided to quit".

    It was all him. No need to put yourself into the equation here. You're just stating what he did. He agreed to not perform action X, and then he performed action X.

    Then, tell him you look forward to seeing him in the crowd at your next gig. And tell him to bring some cute girls with him.

    It isn't about you. Don't let it turn into that at all. He did what he did. Time for him to man up.
     

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