Having my Princeton Reverb overhauled...speaker recommendations?

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  1. SteveStevens

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    So I'm going to have my 1960s Princeton Reverb recapped and gone over and I'm probably going to end up going with a new speaker after that is done. Might as well get this thing running optimally as it has been a little lackluster for a while. I don't necessarily need a speaker that will make it sound like the original Jensen that's in there. I just want it to sound good. Some more headroom would be nice. And no flubbiness would be another plus. I'm seriously considering the Eminence Red Fang 10. The 1028k is intriguing, as is the 1058. The alnicos are a thought because I'd like to get some of that papery/reedy voxyness that I associate with the Celestion Blues.
    All in all, I just want to increase the versatility of the amp, not put it back to original specs. Unless a new Jensen would fit that bill. Any and all suggestions are welcome as I am overwhelmed by the sheer number of speakers out there. And I have read the Princeton threads, but those threads seem focused on which 12 inch speakers to put in there. I want a 10. A perfect 10...

    Steve
     
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    Over there on the Fender Forum, some of the amp tech guys, suggest that a better transformer will make the best improvement to a PR. They have said that this new modded transformer will get rid of the flubbieness and up your headroom. I imagine this would be true. In my case, I wanted to keep the 10 as well, and I just put in a Scumback SA10H75 30watt. 8ohm, and I now have an overall higher headroom, and I've lost the flub, and the low end sounds a lot better now. An improvement, IMO, over the stock Jensen. I've also heard that the Eminence Rajun Cajun 10 is a great replacement, along with the Celestion Gold 10 Alnico. The amount of great stuff is mind boggleing, and everyone has their op's. After a 4 hr. gig. sat. nite with the new spkr. , I'm liking it pretty much.
     
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    Went through a bunch and only one was RIGHT for me.

    Weber 10F150T, 8ohms, 50 watts, light dope (and I let them break it in for me)
     
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    I would second the Weber 10F150T. Very nice speaker that did wonders for my PRRI.
     
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    Weber c10v. Loud, throaty, punchy. Made my '67 PR absolutely able to keep up with a loud drummer.
     
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    I'll third this! :D
     
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    I've had an Eminence Ragin' Cajun in mine for several years. Sounds good to me, but I'm not as picky as some folks.
     
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    +1: tried a copperhead in my PRRI, and ended with a 10F105T that is just *great*, perfect balance of sparkle and warmth.
     
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    +1 for the Weber 10F150T. I tried an Eminence Ragin Cajun before it and was a little disappointed (especially with the clean tones). The 10F150T sounds great clean and distorted, and really lets that Fender clean sparkle shine through.
     
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    The Weber seems to be getting fairly unanimous support. Is this because you all feel that it is faithful to the original sound of the Princeton? But somehow better?
    I'd be more than happy to go with this one, but as there are no Weber dealers in Canada (and there is an Eminence dealer in Ontario...) I probably wouldn't be far off price wise with the Red Fang 10. (After shipping, duty, taxes, etc...)
    Give me a reason the Red Fang would not be a good choice. Weber's looking good so far, though...

    Steve
     
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    What made you pick 50 watts rather than 25 watts?
     
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    Re: the 50 watt choice...I'm guessing it gave the amp more clean headroom? I'd be into a speaker that gave up early if I only played rock, but I'm aiming for a more versatile all around amp. I could be dreaming of the impossible, though...
     
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    If you plan gigging with the amp with a loud drummer, you almost have to consider a speaker like the Weber. I have a '67 Princeton Reverb that is stock and I've found that speaker and others of that ilk tend to take away from the inherent beauty of the amp. Those little Fenders are more about sweetness and good tone and not volume. I tried a number of speakers including Weber and Scumback and I finally settled on a Alnico Tone Tubby which I thought did the best job of capturing the vibe of the amp without extending it too much one way or another. I still think the original Jensen that came with amp sounded the best and I use it for very low volume gigs and practice.
     
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    I also see that Weber offers 10 inch Fane axis clones? Has anyone tried these?
    Too many speakers.
     
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    LOL yeah you can go nuts... and broke... trying speakers. I think you have to start with what kind of sound you want. The Weber 10F150T arguably gives you a solid classic Fender tone, if that's what you want. Or, as throbert says, an original Jensen (like a C10NS). Other speakers will have different flavors which you may like more. But nobody can really tell you if you will personally like it.
     
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    Ted (RIP) had said in the past that the 25 watt is a bit brighter speaker than the 50 and considering that it is going in a pretty bright sounding amp already and I was going with the "T" option to make it a brighter speaker in general I figured that I just didn't need that extra bit of brightness. Also another forum member said he tried both and the reverb had a nicer decay on the 50. I didn't try both so I can't comment on that but I will say the reverb sounds insane with this speaker whereas it only sounded really, really good with all the others. ;)
     
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    Re: 10 inch speakers.....

    You aint heard 10 inch speakers until you've tried a Tone Tubby SuperBoy 10. No other 10 incher on the market handles low end like this. Flab and farty are things of the past......

    $113 (+ ship) at South Valley Vintage Amps.
     
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    It's looking like the Weber. Try talking me out of it! Whaddaya got?
     
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    I tried the Ragin Cajun and it was good but ultimately I went back to the Original Jensen. My problem was essentially corrected with a pickup adjustment. Prior to getting that taken care of I made a Bloggy type video comparison. You can hear the difference between the Jensen and the Cajun. Maybe useful, maybe not but since you asked....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efEjBpEhvdw
     

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