I think the UPS bashing here is second only to the Gibson bashing. People see UPS (or Gibson) and immediately go into bash mode. This post is in response to dmcsern's post "Would you allow (trust) UPS to pack and ship a guitar without a case??" since people continue to bash UPS even after I posted this there. I just had the lovey guitar pictured below sent to me via UPS by our own hodad. He chose to have it packed and shipped by UPS. What he does is to take pictures of the guitar with the UPS person holding it. Then he has them pack it and ship it. How can they possibly deny a claim if they packed and shipped it and you have photographic evidence of the condition of the guitar prior to being packed/shipped by UPS? Think about it people - you do know how to think don't you? If they pack it and insure it, they are liable if they damage it. That's plain common sense. It may be expensive, yes, but how much is your guitar and/or peace of mind worth? Anyway the guitar arrived safe and sound and I have to say it was absolutley the finest packing job I have ever seen in having recieved dozens of guitars. It was in its case, wrapped in bubble wrap. They used some sort of stretchy tape to secure the bubble wrap that when you found the end unraveled easliy, yet held the bubble wrap securely to the case. Very nice. Then it was placed in a box with a massive amount of packing peanuts all the way around - I would guess at least 3" on all sides, probably more. The box itself arrived in very very good condition and showed minimul shippind damage, really none. My guess is that if they pack it, it might get flagged and they treat it with extra care. As I said it was without a doubt the finest packing job I have seen. The best packing job I have ever seen was buy a UPS employee. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.