Headrush Vs. Helix - AC/DC Back in Black Cover

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  1. Marco Fanton

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    Other than some of the low notes clipping I thought the Headrush patch sounded better than the Helix patch. Great playing BTW!!
     
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    Both sound really good. I think I give the nod to the Headrush on this.
     
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    Volumes are really different, harder to compare.
     
  5. Marco Fanton

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    you can adjust easily! come on!! :D
     
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    Polar opposite for me.
    The Headrush was much smoother and polished. Much more gain (or appeared to be), while Helix had the bright nature of the AC/DC. A real classic sound that fit that genre to a t. In lack of better word, the Headrush seemed to be a Marshall flavor, but sounded much more like a generic rock tone (not bad at all) while Helix sounded vintage. But I have to wonder why Marco dialed them in so differently? Maybe that's how he think both devices shine?

    Note: I haven't listened to these in my high end Studio headphones yet.

    @Marco Fanton What did you use in the chain? Redwires IRs again? What models in the different devices?
     
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  7. gtr37

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    Headrush sounds better here but its not a huge surprise the 11rack Marshalls are actually darn good

    I also bet thats a custom IR , I don't think the HR cabs or 11rack sound like that . so my guess is thats your custom voiced Redwirz

    If I am being honest, I have heard better Helix Marshall tones from you and others than is represented here ,curious is it Plexi or 800 on Helix
     
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    Yes I use my Custom IR in both cases.
    With Helix I used Park 75 with compulsive drive. There is also parametric eq.
     
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  9. fairness

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    The AX8 sounds better.

    Oh.... ;)
     
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    Of course it does the Axe actually sound better than
    The real amps have you not been paying attention
     
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    The Headrush sounds best on these clips. The Helix might have been more accurate to the actual AC/DC tone but the Headrush just sounded better.
     
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    Not if you want to be able to back and forth. Listening tests with different loudness are useless.

    So yes, you could easily adjust the loudness which would be been the right way to do it.
     
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    My guess (from seeing the Yamaha DBR10 on stands in the Helix version) is that the Helix take was done months ago when Marco was using that setup. Whereas the Headrush take may have been done more recently.

    Although Marco's playing is very good in each take, it would really need to be done closer in time, with the most current firmware on each unit, and each unit dialed in to Marco's best closest tone for the song.

    Marco, would you shed more light on when the takes were done?
     
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    Either one would be more than acceptable to a bar full of drunks.
     
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    Both of these sound great. If I adjust the volume, the difference is harder to hear. There is more gain on the Headrush, and I suspect the difference would be even less if the gains were more matched. Nicely done, sir!
     
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    If you are talking about being fair with the firmware revisions, would it not be more fair for the helix to go back to the 2nd firmware revision? Cause that is where the HR is. To me that would be fair.
     
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    Prefer the Helix here, sounds more "in your face" :)
     
  18. ColdFrixion

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    The Headrush didn't sound like anything special. The Helix sample sounded superior to my ears. The Headrush sample lacked definition and grit, whereas the Helix sounded better in both regards.
     
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    I love what I'm hearing from the Headrush. More full sounding from Headrush, while the Helix sounds crunchy but thinner.

    Quickly A/B again for the final riff. It's Headrush for sure. Now I'll have to check it out!

    Thanks!
     
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    Louder is generally perceived as better. The Headrush sample was louder, which is something to keep in mind when listening.
     
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