Hear Terry Kath’s Isolated Guitar from Chicago's “25 or 6 to 4”

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  1. GenericUserName

    GenericUserName Member

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    Nice!

    I'm glad it sounds full to me.
     
  2. p-ninety

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    Here it is:

     
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    Not sloppy at all. Kath knew how to phrase and swing. Remember this was probably played in real time with the rhythm section and he was playing off them. No gtr synth either. Highly compressed tone probably due to the preamp he used to use. He got an early roland gtr synth a year or two before he died. This is from their second album which came out around 68 or 69. He was probably playing his strat on this. You can actually hear him switch pickups early in the solo. This guy was a genius with a gtr and played so far beyond so many other gtr players of his time.
     
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  4. Tiny Montgomery

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    He didn’t. That’s actual horns. It’s what early Chicago was known for.
    There’s definitely some slop in there, but it’s great. Most modern recordings are over-sanitized.
     
  5. Gig Young

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    TK was sloppy but great!
    And a soulful singer

    Never cared for his distorto tones tho
     
  6. bobcs71

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    Agree!
    I had the gain lower than I intended for one recording and it was perfect when played back.
    I've had audio engineers cut bass (even on my Champ) and have it sound great in the mix.
     
  7. Thumpalumpacus

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    A golf-clap and tip o' the hat for you, I s'pose.
     
  8. GenericUserName

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    But of course.

    Pardon me, do you have any grey poupon?
     
  9. Thumpalumpacus

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    On what?
     
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    Thanks for posting this.
    For those that have not had the opportunity to record in an actual studio this is a great example. He was playing in real time with the band..it always sounds this way to me on the stuff I’ve done-thin flat ..especially after all we go though to get great tones. This is the difference between studio and live performance.
    The magic is when the engineer and producer mix it all together. His guitar doesn’t sound like this when you hear the full cut.
    Amazing stuff.
     
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    {hangs around thread hoping someone will ask about the fuzz pedal/signal chain he was using} :hide
     
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    This is an amazing solo, you’re crazy if you say this is sloppy. Listening to it out of context isn’t judging it correctly. Within the actual recording it sits perfectly in the pocket.
     
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    Genius Guitarist!.................and so much more. Like many others that left us too early it would be interesting to see what he would have done if he was still around That really sounds like a Strat tone wise to me.Back when I saw him he was using a Gibson SG Custom and a Les Paul Professional.He never played Strat [or a Tele for that matter] in the 4 times I saw them when he was alive.
     
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    To add to my previous post i only saw terry once in 1976 at msg in support of chi x. He played the famous pig nose sticker tele all night. He had a black strat on a stand im guessing for backup. A crybaby and a mutron phaser for efx. The big 4x12 plexi stop sign cab. I dont know if he was still using the bogen pa head into a twin or a showman head but he sounded just like he did on all 10 records. He played a black p bass on if you leave me now. There were a few martin acoustics in stands but he never played them. This guy vocally and technically was so beyond so many of his contemporaries and his work still stands up well. I cried for hours the day he died.
     
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    Yeah sounds like a muff/fuzz to me... TGP delivers. The soundtrack is great because of the energy.
     
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    Terry was a good singer too.



     
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    It's so cool you mentioned his singing. The way he throws down on "Make Me Smile" is top-3 favorite rock vocal ever, for me ... that sonofabitch was feelin' it, as anyone with working ears can hear, his grunts and moans and soaring just say it all, his power is amazing.



    Doesn't hurt that he plays his ass off on this one too.
     
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    Sounds like...David Clayton Thomas:hide
     
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    I didn't know he sang that one. [​IMG]
     

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