Helix Meters?

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  1. John Mark Painter

    John Mark Painter Silver Supporting Member

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    I think I would be satisfied if there was metering just in HX Edit.
    Particularly for Gain Reduction in the Compressors

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. Dave Merrill

    Dave Merrill Supporting Member

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    Overload indicators on each block as needed.
     
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    Should also point out that for absolute consistency using the looper or re-amping from a recorded dry guitar may help. If you play the same guitar and similar style across the patches obviously.
     
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    I voted it up two years ago.

    I've gotten so used to using an outboard meter, it doesn't really matter anymore.
     
  6. vtgearhead

    vtgearhead Silver Supporting Member

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    This has been requested for years, going back to HD500, but apparently never considered a priority. Adjusting a compressor without gain reduction metering is like feeling around in a darkened room.
     
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  7. John Mark Painter

    John Mark Painter Silver Supporting Member

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    Yep...I don't like it.
    I do it best by monitoring on studio speakers at a very low volume so you can hear when it kicks in.
    I'm using the 3 Band compressor on Bass for a run of shows this week, and it was a drag dialing it in.
    That's why I wasn't already using it....
    But I like it now
     
  8. John Mark Painter

    John Mark Painter Silver Supporting Member

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    I wonder if there is a limitation on the responsiveness of the screen
     
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    There is, Igor has explained it on the FB group a few times.
     
  10. John Mark Painter

    John Mark Painter Silver Supporting Member

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    Bummer.
    I wonder if an indicator light could happen on the units and then metering on HX Edit
     
  11. Mark Al

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    See Jason’s video here, a LUFS meter would be nice:
     
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  12. Fireproof

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    The Orban Loudness Meter is free and doesn’t require a DAW.

    https://www.orban.com/freeorbanloudnessmeter

    It measures LUFS among other things. I’ve been using it for patch leveling, and leveling across different snapshots, etc.
     
  13. John Mark Painter

    John Mark Painter Silver Supporting Member

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    I just use the meters on UA Apollo and Cubase for levels
     
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    Actually, DI have stated that the refresh rate and other optimizations of the screen have been or are being implemented. So meters could theoretically be done. The question is, however, how hard it is, how long time it will take, and whether or not it's worth it.
    I think it will be cool, but I'm not the one who has to balance all the requests that Line 6 gets. :)
     
  15. Fireproof

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    Yeah, makes sense. I’m just not currently into recording. So I found it convenient to just plug the Stomp into the MacBook via usb, call up Orban and check things out. It’s easy and lightweight.
     
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  16. John Mark Painter

    John Mark Painter Silver Supporting Member

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    IDEAL would be in HX Edit, a gain reduction light that slides down from the right on the same line as the Threshold Slider(s).
     
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    Both of these have stand-alone versions that can run outside of a DAW with ASIO driver support. With the Youlean product there are VST2, VST3, AAX and standalone EXE versions.

    I've been messing with both this morning monitoring a clip I created in my looper running through a few patches I wanted to level on Helix to my PC via USB. I think I like the Youlean one the best because it's a bit easier to read and compare the max values as digital readouts rather than trying to catch the bars for reconstructed peak in the Orban tool before they decay to get a precise comparison. Otherwise the values both are presenting are pretty close.

    Either way I find these standalone apps a bit more convenient than bringing up either of my two DAWs (Reaper or Studio One 4) and setting up a plugin to do the same task. So thank you both for the tips.
     
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    Another phenomenal @jsad video!!
     
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    I would think the most processor intensive part of providing metering would be the actual signal analysis.

    If displaying moving meters graphically is the problem, how about just displaying a numeric value like the peak indicator on a DAW channel strip?
     
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    In a 32-bit floating point system, you have to work really hard to overload something between the inputs and outputs.
     

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