Help Me Choose A New Analog Delay: $700 Budget

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  1. p6x

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    The Deluxe Memory Man is still on Eric Johnson's pedal board; It used to be on so many other top guitar players, such as Andy Timmons.

    However, they are fragile and if you rough them up, they breakdown on you. Andy switched to Strymon, but Eric still uses his.
     
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    Another vote for the Electro-Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man...
     
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    Nobody proposed the Chandler SDE....

    One of the best tape echo ever, unfortunately, rack format; Andy Timmons had two before he switched to the EHx DMM's and later Strymon timeline.
     
  4. drbob1

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    So, skipping the cluster fuzz about whether BBDs are truly analog or not, much of the "sound" of an analog delay results from the compromises necessary to make them function properly-the filters and the limited headroom. In general, the filters make things darker than a tape or digital delay-using an MN3005 to get 300 msec, the corner frequency of the delay has to be in the 1500-3000 Hz range, which is pretty dark.

    So, there are a few choices the OP can look at:
    1. A delay with a longer maximum length run at shorter length will generally be somewhat brighter as the filter doesn't have to come down as hard. You'll get a million suggestions but generally DMMs are brighter than other choices.

    2. You can make a similar sound by using the same filters and an external feedback loop. This is the route that the SIB Red delay takes, as well as the new Eventide Rose pedal. It can give a very analog like delay. In particular the SIB Red has a REALLY good preamp that makes it both bright and very analog sounding

    3. Of course you can model anything in a completely digital environment and it can sound really good, but you already know that because you've tried that route.
     
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  5. stagolee

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    I need to finally try one of these. I think I can reconcile it with my desire to downsize, too, since I’ll probably have to sell three pedals to get one o_O
     
  6. flatulentmatt

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    I've owned a couple. The Deluxe Memory Boy I don't think would be down your alley. It's very dark (one of the reasons I didn't like it).

    I tried the Way Huge Supa Puss next. The Supa Puss is quite a quirky, interactive delay, but it sounds fantastic. Really, really good. Provided you get the most recent revision (there were a few early quirks that took a couple goes to iron out - imbalanced mix, too early oscillation, etc). Can be really nice and clean and clear, DMM style, but warms up nicely too.

    I currently have the Rubberneck. I moved to the Rubberneck more for features than tonal reasons; the subdivision options worked better for me, and I really like the on tap oscillation and rubbernecking features. It doesn't sound quite as good as the Supa Puss; the repeats are a bit more low-mid-rangey, but definitely not as dark as a standard CC or the EHX Deluxe Memory Boy (though it can probably get there). It's more of a punchy sound. I don't think it gets to DMM clarity though. I think from what you're after tone-wise, the Rubberneck could be a good fit for you.

    I've never owned, but have played a DMM multiple times as well.

    If I could package up the Supa Puss sound with the Rubberneck features, that to me would be the perfect analog delay. But the Rubberneck gets close enough soundwise for me that it's worth keeping around. I'd really like to try the 80Tape In Limbo III Compact as well.
    The Rubberneck lacking in build quality? What makes you say that? I feel like it's extremely solid in that area.
     
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    I don't think anyone proposed it because it's not analog.
     
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  8. stagolee

    stagolee Silver Supporting Member

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    Right. They would never think of doing something like that ;)
     
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    JHS Panther V1- Very underrated

    [​IMG]JHS Panther Sea-foam Green by GibsonFender11, on Flickr
     
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    This thread is like being a vegan and going to my parents’ for dinner.
    ‘I know you don’t eat meat so I made you a tuna casserole’.
    ‘...‘
    ‘Oh you don’t eat any meat or fish or dairy? Weird but here’s an omelette.’
    ‘...‘
    ‘Ok ok, I get it finally. Well here’s a bowl of chocolate ice cream for dessert.’
     
  11. Abandoned

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    this made me laugh so hard
     
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    So I tried a friends Carbon Copy tonight , just an hour after I tried the ARDX20... I def like the CC better. The tone of the repeats by themselves is so good.
    It can muddy up the sound though when playing chords and stuff. Maybe the deluxe is the way to go, or maybe a regular and a deluxe would complete the picture
     
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    I would like to try stacking the MLDLX, with my Counterpoint delay, for playing slide and electric.

    YMMV
     
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    If you’re thinking of two don’t forget about the Carbon Copy Mini. It also has the bright switch (located on the side) so you could run the Mini in bright mode and a standard CC for the regular sound.
     
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    When did this most recent revision start? Any way to tell if a used one is recent enough to have these modifications included?
     
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    Uh... pretty early on. So most units out there should be the newer revision. There is a way to check I believe; there's a thread on here somewhere that talks about it. I think you hold down a couple of switches while powering on, but you'd have to search on here for the thread. Basically, one of the first users (also a member here), @theroan wasn't happy with some of the ways the Supa Puss was acting. So Way Huge modified it for everyone, but it took them a couple of goes. I think within 6 months they were shipping out theroan mod version. I think as well if you have an earlier version, you can send it in to them to update as well.
     
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    Source Audio Nemesis. I know...not analog. Really? Can you really hear the difference?
     
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    One Maxon AD999, one Chasebliss Tonal Recall, one used Donner.
     

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