help me choose some new speakers

sabbath90

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hey guys i've decided to get a dedicated cab for my soldano astroverb. i've got an empty soldano 2x12 and want to put some speakers in it. i'm looking at webers right now. i'm thinking of an alnico silver bell and a ceramic 1230-55. has anyone used these? any other suggestions for a really nice growly rock tone? thanks.
 
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I have a 30 Watt Blue Dog and a C1230 in a Bruno cabinet. You can get the low end tightness of the ceramic and the singing musical quality of the ALNICO in one cabinet. The ALNICO compresses nicely when pushed and the Ceramic keeps it tight. Very British.

Extremely versatile no matter what style of music you play...
 

John Phillips

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G12H-30 and G12M-25

With a low-powered amp that's the perfect combination of depth, clarity, warmth and richness IMO... if you mean 'classic rock' growl.

If you want more modern heavy growl I'd go with a V30 and a G12H-30 or a Classic Lead.
 

m1911

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Originally posted by John Phillips
G12H-30 and G12M-25

With a low-powered amp that's the perfect combination of depth, clarity, warmth and richness IMO... if you mean 'classic rock' growl.
Hi John,
Have you had the chance to hear the new Heritage G12H & G12M over there?
I think those might be nice in a 2x12.
Mark
 

HeeHaw

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Originally posted by troublehead
I love g12h30's. Wierd thing is, I hate the Eminence Wizards which are supposed to be g12 knockoffs.
My Wizards were defective, I am sticking with Celestion greenbacks from now on. That being said, the Wizards sounded like a half cocked wah pedal with an extra bass note an octave lower, and some good amounts of wierd high frequency stuff going on when playing higher notes. I was warned beforehand and I didn't listen. Lesson learned.:D


-Rich
 

troublehead

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Originally posted by HeeHaw
That being said, the Wizards sounded like a half cocked wah pedal with an extra bass note an octave lower, and some good amounts of wierd high frequency stuff going on when playing higher notes.

-Rich
The "half cocked wah" was exactly my thoughts on the Wizards. The g12h30's have much warmer mids and are more musical sounding as well.
 

meterman

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Originally posted by sabbath90
has anyone tried 2 alnico speakers with higher gain?
I havent', but I would doubt that the bass would hold together. I have CTS alnicos in my Super Reverb and when you hit it with distortion or fuzz it flubs out pretty bad, lots of speaker distortion, I was always afraid I was gonna blow them....
 

sabbath90

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i think i'm going to get a weber 15 watt alnico silver bell and a ceramic 1230-55. that should sound pretty tasty. i really love weber speakers too. although i am going to have to try scumbacks real soon. man, i just can't keep my hands off of my pickups and speakers:rolleyes: .
 

Mr.Hanky

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I'd go with the Celestions, G12H is my fave, mix it with a GB another G12H or a V30 and you are good to go.

I had bad problems with a Weber Silver Bell and Blues Dog.
 

big mike

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Originally posted by John Phillips
G12H-30 and G12M-25

With a low-powered amp that's the perfect combination of depth, clarity, warmth and richness IMO... if you mean 'classic rock' growl.

If you want more modern heavy growl I'd go with a V30 and a G12H-30 or a Classic Lead.
Love that combo myself John. I have my 4x12 set up like that in an X pattern, and it's kicking MAJOR bootie with my new 2061X head.

Everything else cabinet wise will soon have Scumback versions. they're AWESOME!
 

sabbath90

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Originally posted by Mr.Hanky
I'd go with the Celestions, G12H is my fave, mix it with a GB another G12H or a V30 and you are good to go.

I had bad problems with a Weber Silver Bell and Blues Dog.
what kind of problems have you had?
 

nateco

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Originally posted by sabbath90
has anyone tried 2 alnico speakers with higher gain?

I use the Weber Alnico Plus 50 watt Silver Bells and Blue Dogs....


The Alnico Plus is a hybrid between the Alnico and ceramics....they have a fair amout of the Alnico thing happening and can get nice and chimey when ya want....but they still hold up when you drive the crap out of them.....I don't know why more guys don't use them.....it's realy like having the best of both worlds in my opnion.
 

Mr.Hanky

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Originally posted by sabbath90
what kind of problems have you had?
Horrific cone cry!!

There is something about a Les Paul neck pickup that those speakers do not like. I tried them in a 2X12, and then individually in a 1X12. Even with a low powered amp the results were the same.

They were lightly doped and I was not about to start pulling speakers, doping, re-doping, ect...

G12H30 = plug and play.
:)
 




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