Help me cull the herd and fund a Bartel!

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by JackS2, Mar 31, 2020.

  1. JackS2

    JackS2 Supporting Member

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    Okay... "Too much stuff" I'm told. To be faaaiiirrrrr, I live in a tiny condo and the wife is nice enough to let me have an entire room for guitars/office.

    Wanting to get a Bartel Starwood but have no more space..what do you say should go to a new home?! *=already leaning towards selling. #=definitely keeping

    Heads:
    Two Rock Bloomfield (probably my fanciest)
    Carr Mercury V
    * Victory Sheriff 22
    Analog Outfitters Sarge
    Headstrong Verbrovibe
    Reeves Custom 12 PS
    Matchless Spitfire 15
    Emery Sound Superbaby w/12" cab
    * Allen Little Fella
    * Carl's Amps 5E3 Tweed
    * Milkman 5w
    * Benson Vinny 1w

    Combos:
    # Benson Nathan Jr
    * Marshall Bass 12 ($old)

    Cabinets:
    # 3rd Power 2x12 Alnico Gold/V30
    # Thiele 1x12 Alnico Blackhawk
     
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  2. Echoplexi

    Echoplexi Silver Supporting Member

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    Just sell all those you marked “already leaning”. You’ll still have an incredible stable of amps left over, with another that you really want.
     
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  3. JackS2

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    For sure, those are all tiny though and won't save a lot of space.
     
  4. TJNies

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    I'd definitely keep the Emery and sell the Milkman at whatever price you can get.
     
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  5. truckin

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    I'm not sure if you're looking for this response, but I'll give my two cents anyway. Keep your amps. I also wanted a Bartel for a while, even started selling gear to fund one but kind of realized I got tunnel vision. To me it looks like you have a fantastic stable of amps which already cover that ground and more, perhaps better than the Bartel would. You mention that you live in a condo - in my own research on those amps I have been told that the Bartels need volume to really give up the goods. I'm not trying to talk you out of owning a Bartel because I'm sure they are fantastic, but you may find that you were more happy with those amps as they each have their own individual character. I do think the idea behind the Bartels are awesome though; hand crafted works of art.

    Edit: Forgot to mention, good luck moving anything right now. You'll lose your ass on resale. Just experienced that first hand.
     
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  6. BSOD

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    Played the Bartel. As others have stated, you have already covered the ground with your collection.

    Bartel is a jack of all trades (not to be confused with the JOAT LOL). It does everything really well, better than every amp I have played. But it won't be better in a comparison individually to your Two Rock, 5E3, Spitfire, Milkman.

    There really isn't a point to the amp unless you are truly using it for multiple flavors. It has truly interactive knobs. But it isn't better individually than those amps. You'll just move it on, and likely take a massive hit on the sale - economy is getting worse, it's a great way to take a $2k haircut if you care
     
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  7. JackS2

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    I've been doing fine selling off Craigslist in my big city.

    I have an Ox to push sound in the small place during these lock down times!

    I would love to find an "all in one" to allow me sell off everything else but it hasn't happened yet! :)
     
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    jmelm Silver Supporting Member

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    I’m also looking at a Bartel Starwood. To the OP, what made you decide on the Starwood vs other models?

    And to everyone else who owns or has played them: do you agree with the above sentiment that they are excellent for covering a wide array of sounds, but don’t do any “individual” sounds better than other amps built for those singular purposes? (i.e. Tweed tones, Blackface tones, etc.)
     
  9. JackS2

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    A bit silly perhaps, but I love a great Reverb on board and don't care about Trem, so the Starwood it would be!
     
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    jmelm Silver Supporting Member

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    Hey, that’s as good a rationale as any ;)
     
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  11. sickboy79

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    I agree as well.
     
  12. JackS2

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    Again, selling just the tiny ones isn't much of a space saver. Those all fit on shelves but the big-un's dont. Oh well.
     
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    # Spitfire.
     
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    porterburst Silver Supporting Member

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    I would not sell the Bloomfield unless you really didn't connect with it.
     
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  15. Gasp100

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    Too bad you are on the other side of the country, been interested in Victory amps and that sheriff seems pretty cool. But I'd need a cab as well.
     
  16. JackS2

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    I use the same 2 cabs for everything, very versatile and nicely broken in now.
     
  17. davidespinosa

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    - Which amps are big ?
    - If you sell all six amps marked *, that's a decent amount of space.

    BTW, Mark is making head versions of all three amps.
    I always prefer heads to combos.
     
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  18. JackS2

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    The Two Rock, Carr and Headstrong are all pretty huge.
    I vascilate between prefering a head or combo. As you can see, I mostly own heads but am looking at the B combo. :D Mark has made a head version before for a friend but I didn't know he was mass producing them. I wanted the combo as I don't have that speaker in my arsenal anyways.
     
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    Okay -- would you consider selling one of those ?
    Can the Two-Rock sound like the Headstrong ?
    But the cosmetics are totally different...
     
  20. StummerJoe

    StummerJoe Gold Supporting Member

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    Hell, just help ME fund a Bartel!;)
     
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