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Help me get the echo on Run Like Hell

zosozep7

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I have a Boss DD-3 and am currently in the market for a Carbon Copy. Does anyone know any good settings for these two delays to get the opening echos on Run Like Hell? Any help would be greatly appreciated! :bow
 

analogmike

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Carbon Copy should be fine, dial in a little modulation, get the delay time correct (dotted eight note to the rhythm), set for about 3 repeats, set the level to taste, and you are all set :)
 

zosozep7

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Thanks AM! Ill give that a whirl as soon as I get my hands on a CC. Anyone know how to set up the DD-3?
 

redeyeflight

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this is either a deluxe memory man or an echo of some kind with the electric mistress flanger. I'm guessing the later since gilmour was not known to use the DMM but definately used the mistress. As analogman said, a carbon copy with some modulatin should get ya right in the ballpark. Awesome song and awesome tone!
 

Marble

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Run Like Hell is a tune very near and dear to my heart. When I was just a kid starting out, I had a DE-7 that would dial it in very close to the sound. The CC will definitely do it.

Recked is right that is probably something around 350+ms for that rhythmic delay.
 

PatrickE_FenderADV

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I've got a dumb question... doesn't the term "dotted eighth" change from song to song depending on the tempo? How can you set your delay to "dotted eighths"???
 

Lolaviola

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If your beat is Bah, Bah, Bah, Bah
dotted-eighth comes in a little before each beat:
Bah-ti, Bah-ti, Bah-ti, Bah...
You can change the tempo, and the beat is the same: dotted-eighth.
When you want to practice this, turn on the delay and set the level and repeats to taste.
Now focus on the time. Start by playing with the delay ecxactly on the beat
bop, bop, bop, bop
Now you are gonna lengthen your beat (what you are playing) so the repeat hits before you do:
ba..di, ba..di, ba..di, ba..di
 

Cymbaline

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I've got a dumb question... doesn't the term "dotted eighth" change from song to song depending on the tempo? How can you set your delay to "dotted eighths"???
It's not really a dotted eighth, it's actually a triplet pattern, where the delay is repeating triplets against your picking rhythm. Gilmour does this in a bunch of songs: Run Like Hell, Another Brick In The Wall (pt. 1), One Of These Days (on the bass), Blue Light, Keep Talking, etc.

Listen very closely to the very beginning of Run Like Hell, where he's just making scraping sounds, and you can hear how he's got his delay set. The live version from Pulse is helpful to get this setting, because he plays around with it for a while before he starts the song.

Almost any delay pedal will get you there. I've got a Boss DD-2 and I can nail it. Just dial in about 380 ms with a moderate decay and you're there. It's just a matter of getting your playing sync'ed up with the delay.
 

zosozep7

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A lot of great information here! Thanks all for helping me (and maybe someone else) out. Greatly appreciated! Played around last night with it quite a bit and had lots of fun!! This site rawks!
 

mickey69

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this is either a deluxe memory man or an echo of some kind with the electric mistress flanger. I'm guessing the later since gilmour was not known to use the DMM but definately used the mistress. As analogman said, a carbon copy with some modulatin should get ya right in the ballpark. Awesome song and awesome tone!
it's the EXH mistress and the blue mxr digital delay from the 70's.
 

Reckedtrek

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it's the EXH mistress and the blue mxr digital delay from the 70's.
That is correct, and proof that digital delays *can* and do sound amazing when used properly. The DMM guys always want to claim Gilmour as one of their own, but it just wasn't the case.
 

PatrickE_FenderADV

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It's just a matter of getting your playing sync'ed up with the delay.
And as the speed of the song changes then the 380ms setting won't match and you won't have the sound, right? That's why I need a tap tempo on my DD7 if I'm doing 3, 4 or 5 different U2 songs that all have different tempos.
 

burningyen

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And as the speed of the song changes then the 380ms setting won't match and you won't have the sound, right? That's why I need a tap tempo on my DD7 if I'm doing 3, 4 or 5 different U2 songs that all have different tempos.
Reason #24 why I'm happier with a multi-FX unit with presets. No need for tap tempo when you can store the tempos in advance.
 

blood5150

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you dont need two delays to pull this one off....

Its really more in the picking patern as well... pick less and let the delay to all the work for you... it still has to have that "feel" though to sound right....
 




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