Help setting up 2 powered speakers

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  1. tammuz7000

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    I got some new EV Live 112p speakers and need advice on setting them up. I have a yamaha mixer MG10/2 and was thinking I could run xlr cables to the speakers but I dont have xlr inputs on the mixer..

    I already purchased some 30' and 50' xlr cables thinking they would work. Can I just get an adapter to put into the mixer or should I just get different cables? If so what speaker wires do I get? there is xlr/trs jacks on th speakers..

    There is also a male xlr jack on the speaker called a link to run the to the 2nd speaker...looks like i need a female to female xlr cable but havent found any of them.. what cable should i use to link the 2 speakers together or should I just run 2 cables from the mixer?


    -Tom
     
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    i think you mean that you don't have XLR OUTPUTS on your mixer, not inputs.

    simple fix....just get a pair of 1/4" to XLRF adapters, plug the 1/4" end into your mixer outputs, and the regular XLR cables into the adapters. they will only fit on there one way.

    what speakers are they, and do they have both a male XLR and a female XLR connector on them? what about 1/4" (and speakon connectors) inputs...does it have any of them, and if so, how many? hopefully with some more information we can help you out and set you straight!
     
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    You mean outputs.

    I picked up a few 3' TRS > Male XLR cables just for this purpose and has served me well... for both mains and monitors, I just treat them as a femal XLR to TRS adapter and run a regular Mic Cable off it. Or you can just pickup TRS Cables for the entire run. (I find that less useful than using adapters and XLR cables).

    If you are going to run stereo then yes, two cables from the mixer, if you are running mains/monitors off the main output then you would use anothe rmic cable to link the other powered speaker. EDIT: I've owned those speakers and I just looked at your mixer online... you'd want two cables from the mixer. You have a separate monitor out...
     
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    ok, so i just reread your OP and checked out the speakers.....
    you have XLR in and and XLR out, typical for a powered speaker. use input 2, and switch it to "line", not "mic", and then, say you want to link 4 of them together to cover the left side of your PA, just link them all using short XLR cables....the first one gets a male input from the mixer, the speakers 1 to 2, 2 to 3, and 3 to 4 all go from the XLR output on each speaker, to the input 2 on the next (all set to line level).

    also, in my last post i mentioned using 1/4" to XLR adapters....an even better solution might be to make up 2 short (2' or so) cables with 1/4" balanced plug on one end, and a female XLR on the other end. that way you can use any cable to hook up your system....just make sure to have those adapter cables in a safe place so that you can find them from gig to gig! also, while you are making cables, make some short (3' or so) XRLM to XLRF jumper cables for linking speakers together.

    these EV's are decent speakers...just be careful when packing them into your van/car, because the knobs stick out, and tend to snap off very easily because of this design. i like these speakers more than a lot of other powered speakers because A. they are EV's, and that's a company with some audio history, and B. you can throw them on their sides and they make decent stage monitors. i'd add an 18" sub under each main so that you get some low end thump, but aside from that, you've got the right idea!
     
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    Oh thank you I think I get it...now...to hook the speakers together i just go from the first one from the output link to the ...to the 2nd one to the input 2...ty so very much...

    I will get the 3' adapters from TRS to xlr/m ...or is it trs to xlr/F...


    is there any reason to do stereo from the mixer..

    I need to get some covers as well for them.and was looking on ebay for thse packing covers from Connies covers...which should protect the knobs..any advice on covers?

    also how high do you put them. i got some ultimate ts80b stands off craigs list and they use an adapter to fit the 1 3/8 hole and it seems fairly high to me..how high do you set these...this is for an acoustic duo...

    -Tom
     
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    I was running a pair of the ELX112P with the ELX118P subs as a compact B rig for a while and was quite a smooth sounding little system... The HF Driver in the EV is Smoother than the QSC (Nothing that you can't EQ out of the QSC though.) and the ELX118P crushes the KSUB.
     
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    set the speakers up at head level for the crowd, with the horn in the speaker being a tad above head level. the ts80's are fine for this job. as for padded covers, i think gator makes some inexpensive bags for them. EV may even have a bag for their own speakers. not sure about that, though. there are plenty of companies who do make them, tough.

    as far as speaker cables go, you could do what i suggested in my last post, or you could just get straight 1/4" to 1/4" speaker cables to go from your mixer to input 2, then use XLR's to jump the rest of the speakers together. the input connectors on input 1 and input 2 on your speakers will take either an XLR or a 1/4". i know it doesn't look like it would, but it does.
     
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    You want a 1/4" TRS to XLR MALE adapter, not female.

    Set them high enough so that the HF horn is over the heads of the audience. Usually the higher the better, but it depends on the size of the room and how far you want them to throw, and also the size of the stands.
     
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    I don't think EV makes bags yet, but Gator does make some that will fit.
     
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    So let me get this straight..
    1. mixer => trs to xlr female adapter => xlr cable to => input 2 of first speaker
    then output link xlr of speaker 1 => Input 2 of speaker 2????

    or get 1/4 speaker cable to go to first speaker input 2 then go from xlr output link of speaker to speaker 2 input 2?

    am I using input 2 in all cases and have it set to Line in? or does input 1 get involved or not matter
     
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    There's a lady on Ebay that makes and sells covers that are reasonably priced, I used ones from her. I'll dig up a link. . Tuki makes nice covers too.
     
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    for covers, call Pat at Cloud 9 covers 800-599-7429.
     
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    NO. For MONO operation - Mixer main out > TRS to XLR MALE adapter > XLR Cable to EITHER input on the EV (if using input 2 make sure it's set to line, not mic) > Link Output via XLR > Either input on the second speaker.

    For STEREO operation, run a separate adapter and XLR cable from each main output (Left and Right) to each speaker.

    DO NOT USE A SPEAKER CABLE FOR ANYTHING IN THIS SETUP!!!

    Oh and +1 for Cloud 9 Covers.
     
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    Thanks everyone. I got them set up and linked last night and they sound great...I didnt ge the cable for my mixer yet but was able to plug them in and put them on poles and listen to both speakers and really liked what I heard.

    -Tom
     

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