Help wading through all the fuzzes

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  1. MikeVB

    MikeVB Supporting Member

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    What type of fuzz would you most associate with this sound, especially the main intro riff?

    Too many damn different fuzzes in the world. I should clarify that I'm not a fanboy looking to buy the exact pedal he used. I just listened to a lot of different fuzz tones on YouTube to find one that sounded like what I'm after.

     
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  2. guitarslinger21

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    Sounds like a germanium fuzz face of some kind.

    For those types of tones, I find the Fuzzhugger Velcroar is a great choice.

    They are cheap, and made in the USA. Killer pedal.

     
  3. Medgeking

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    Yep, that velcroar sounds right on to me . . . definitely a germanium fuzz face sound should work. There are a million of those to choose from too though . . . hahahaha
     
  4. MikeVB

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    Yeah, but which circuit? I might want to build my own if I can find a PCB.

    I've read Dan used a Fulltone Soul Bender on that album, but you know how online info can be.
     
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    I'd wait for the PTD Germanium Bone Machine - you can switch between Si and Ge so you have the stock Bone Machine/Mini-Bone sounds but you can switch it to Ge mode for "warmer, softer" sounds, as Paul Trombetta puts it.

    If you want to know exactly what was used on that BK track or others, you'd probably find the right answer by e-mailing Jamie at Earthquaker Devices as he was Auerbach's guitar tech for awhile and Dan is known to have used stock and custom Hoofs, IIRC. Not sure if he still is Dan's tech.
     
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    i thought dan said he used some early 70s ibanez fuzz....no idea the name of it, or what type of fuzz it is based on....
     
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    Ibanez Standard Fuzz?
     
  8. MikeVB

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    So does anyone know which of the classic circuits this sounds like?
     
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    During that time frame it was a Fulltone SoulBender.

    They just reissued them in a smaller form for around $170 or so.
     
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    dshobe Rocky Mountain Way Silver Supporting Member

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    Dang! That's some sweet stuff! Gotta get me some Black Keys!!
     
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    I've got a Soul Bender that I love and it doesn't sound anything like that. It's much smoother sounding than that. I'd suggest a medium to higher gain germanium fuzz. I don't build them myself, So I can't say what circuit.

    Better yet, get in touch with a good builder and show them the clip. Just say you want a fuzz with that sound . . .
     
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    I thought Thickfreakness was the Maestro MFZ-1 fuzz...
     
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    Yup, I've heard the eqd hoof is the way to go for black keys stuff. I've never played one but the clips sound convincing
     
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    I bought the Hoof for Black Keys and it will get Dan's tone...what I had no idea of when I bought the pedal is the variety of sounds it cops...I am selling my Scarab Deluxe because the Hoof copies it (to my ears)...
     
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    Germanium fuzzes will get you most of the way there. I know that I can get very, very close to that sound with my HBE Lorba fuzz, which is a Jordan Bosstone clone (and silicon, I believe). I wouldn't worry too much about exactly which Ge fuzz, to be honest.

    I will say that the Lorba is Dan in a Can for many of his songs . . .
     
  16. MikeVB

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    Appreciate all the suggestions to check out. I'm not concerned with sounding like the Black Keys, just grabbed it for a tone example.

    I just like big, thick, round Ge fuzz tones. But I haven't learned what all the classic boxes sound like, and it's hard to tell from most YT demos.
     
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    FWIW, the EQD Hoof is one of my favorite pedals, but it doesn't sound very nasty and rough like that clip. IMO, it's smooth and modern. Awesome, but nothing like that clip.
     
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    I think a Catalinbread Merkin would work well for this.

    I do have Ge FF and TBMkII clones which I'm getting ready to sell (cheep!) -- PM me if you'd like info.
     
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    I read that he used a early 90's Green Muff a lot.

    Here is a good proguitarshop video demoing several different Black Keys tones. I know you are not looking to copy them, but it gives a good sound sample of their type of tones using a Hoof Fuzz.

     
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    I made a couple of quick sound samples of the four knob Hoof (first) and the HBE Lorba (second). Both are with the bridge pickup of my Strat with a tone rolled back a bit to kill some of the highs. I probably could have boosted either of the pedals a bit to really get them fizzling, but you can quickly see how they get that sound pretty well.

    http://www.jus-tone.com/misc/recordings/Hoof_Lorba_Keys_Sample.mp3
     

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