Help with stacking order: Soulbender and Klon

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by jtw, Oct 6, 2006.

  1. jtw

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    The band I'm playing with tonight has a more rock-y type vibe going on than what I usually play, so I'm going to dust off the old Fulltone Soulbender to use for some heavy Neil Young-Nels Cline-type grit and gain. I'm also going to be using my Klon as a boost. I've never stacked these two before and was hoping someone could chime in if you have any experience doing this. What are the advantages of one before the other? Which would you put first in the chain, and why?

    My rig will be an EJ strat>TU2 tuner>drive pedals>Dan Echo>tweed Pro Junior.

    Thanks!
     
  2. chrisr0712

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    Put the Soulbender before the Klon and 1st in line if possible. I'm thinking your combo will sound tasty!
     
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    The Soulbender - being a FUZZ - will want to be in front of everything - everytime:AOK
     
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    Thanks guys! chrisr, were you saying to put the Soulbender even before the tuner if possible? I have a love/hate relationship with the tuner in my chain. I think overall it sounds better without it. I'd rather not have it there, but it's so convenient for spot tuning checks. Hate having to plug it back in when i want to use it.

    Also, how will the Klon's buffer effect the signal chain after the Soulbender? Will it really be noticable?

    Anyway, thanks guys, and keep 'em coming!
     
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    Basically - you want SOME buffering but you never want it before a fuzz. So yes , put the tuner AFTER the soulbender. Most fuzzes dont even like a wah placed in front of them !!

    The Klon has a pretty good buffer and should help. I was being extra particular one week so I had PaulC make my Klon True Bypass. I'm not sure that was really necessary
     
  6. jtw

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    Thanks DANO!

    Interesting, I never thought about putting the tuner farther along down the chain. I've also been hesitant to stack the Klon with anything else because it sounds so dang good on its own with just a little delay, but I think I'm going to need the extra grit tonight.

    I have a Timmy that I was also thinking of stacking with the Klon instead of the fuzz, but I think the fuzz will nail more tones that will work with this particular group.
     
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    To save the 'tapdance', I had an A/B Looper built which switches between loop A (Klon) and loop B (Crunchbox) for me. Works great if you don't want to stack, which I could never get to work right for me. Stacking always seemed to feel like I put my glasses on while I still had my contacts in.
     
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    Now that you metioned a Timmy...I would pack it along just in case. I have a Pro Junior and a Timmy also. The Souldbender through a PJ was pretty sweet also but never tried it with a Klon.
     
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    Thanks Chris. I use the Timmy as the only drive with the PJ at my church gigs. Works perfectly. It's so funny, the churches I play instantly say I'm too loud if I use anything with a mid-hump in it, no matter what the actual volume is. Timmy is great for getting the drive without the hump :AOK

    Yeah, I always have my Timmy handy. It's turned into my "go-to" pedal in a very short amount of time. I've only had it for a little over a month. I've tried stacking it with the Klon, and I didn't like it initially, but I still need to experiment a little bit more.
     
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    My Soul-Bender is first in line. Notice the old DOD A/B box right above it? That splits my signal to 'A' - my tuner, or 'B' - my effects chain.
    For the record, I can stack my Soul-Bender with anything on the board - sounds great with the Beano Boost, Tim, or the Sparkledrive.
     
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    Did they change something in the Soulbenders over the years, or am I htinking of a different Fulltone?
     
  12. jtw

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    From what i've read, they did change something in them around 2001, which makes them a bit girthier and gainier. I have #484 with the old switch, and I'm pretty sure it's with the old circuitry. I can't remember when I bought the thing! Some people apparently find the older circuit to be harsher, or spittier. I actually find it to be quite nice and round with the tone knob turned up, but that's according to my ears only.
     

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