Hendroff Delay Help!

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  1. Michael_V

    Michael_V Supporting Member

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    Yes, I know it's been asked a thousand times before, but I've searched high and low on this forum and couldn't find a clear answer, and I need this sound for this song next weekend. Exactly how does Nigel Hendroff get this galloping delay sound, best heard at 1:35 in this clip?

    http://youtu.be/afgQk2WodGI

    He says it's an analog delay with a triplet "on top" but I've tried every combination available to me between a Nova Delay (on analog sim) and two DD-5s and could not get that gallop.

    I really just need to know the time divisions and which comes first. Quarters and triplet eighths? Triplet quarters and dotted eighths? Triplet eighths and triplet quarters? Dotted eights and quarters???

    I am pulling my hair out!

    Thanks!
     
  2. Michael_V

    Michael_V Supporting Member

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    Well, no responses. Here's the best approximation I could come up with. Sounds pretty close. Also, not sure why it's posting the picture upside down!

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  3. PosterBoy

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    Found this for you

    The song is played at 74 BPM. Nigel's tempo is set to 100BPM for the delays. Nigel uses two delays. Delay 1 is a 1/4 note digital delay (24% feedback). Delay 2 is 1/4 analog triplet in series to the first and feedback around 30%). With the two delays setup like that, you get the "gallop" effect he using, and it sounds really cool. The 'analog' triplet repeats have slighty less bite, and the 1/4 ones really "pop out". So, its not a wall of total repeats, and its not muddied up with dotted eighths
     
  4. Michael_V

    Michael_V Supporting Member

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    Wow, thank you!!!
     
  5. buddastrat

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    Those don't sound like triplets to me. More like the usual eighths or 16ths. Sounds very Edge-ish.
     
  6. jdhix

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    Ya, he says triplets, but I think a quarter note delay with a dotted eight delay sounds much more like what he's doing. In fact, it's the dual delay setting he used on the nova delay when he moved on from the DD5s.

    Quarter plus Dotted Eight tapped to the same tempo. That should get you there.
     
  7. Tomlin

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    So...I'm wondering if anyone has set this up for a Timeline that sounds like a faithful recreation?
     
  8. guitarjazz

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    Dude on video is cornfused. He's talking 'Nashville triplets' ie..dotted eighths.
    Excuse while I get back to watching the MC5.
     
  9. Tomlin

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    So is it Delay 1 Quarter Notes and Delay 2 Dotted Eights, or Delay 1 Quarter Notes and Delay 2 Quarter Triplets? I will try it on the Timeline and report back what I find.
     
  10. guitarjazz

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    Ah...the tennis shoes in a dryer effect!
     
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  11. Tomlin

    Tomlin Member

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    Ha! I never thought about that. It can be beautiful sometimes :)
     
  12. stevegrossie

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    To loop back on this thread, after fussing around, I believe the following is close enough for the effect

    Set Tap Tempo to 100
    Set 1st Delay - 1/4 note - 30% feedback - 30% Mix >> route this delay into 2nd Delay
    Set 2nd Delay - Dotted 1/4 note - 26% Feedback - 40% mix

    Since one routes into the other, timing, mixes and feed backs feed off each other and seems to work out. Adjust to taste.
    If you take note in the video, the first delay is analog, and the 2nd delay is probably digital
     

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