Hey Alt-country players

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by Teleking, Mar 27, 2008.

  1. Teleking

    Teleking Supporting Member

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    Any of you guys use a dual amp setup?

    I can't seem to find a happy medium with my situation. AC30 too loud--air break doesn't help really. AC15 not clean enough. Victoria Deluxe not clean enough for rhythm, Double too loud to get breakup.

    Been thinking long and hard about going to a two amp setup. One strictly for clean rhythm sounds, another breaking up for more grind for that country breakup sound, but then also being able to slam it with a boost or overdrive to get that rockin' sound.

    Had any pitfalls with this kid of set up? What are you playing that works well? Mainly a tele player, but play Ricks and Casinos.

    Thanks for any thoughts. Just looking to build the perfect sound. Thanks
     
  2. infiniteposse

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    Have you tried a Carr Rambler? It's got plenty of headroom and matches amazingly well with a tele. Takes pedals super well and travels better than 2 amps.

    Otherwise I'd ask if you've considered something like a Hayseed 30 with a master volume on it. It'll give you a little more flexibility around how quickly you get to breakup...

    I've never done the two amp thing, but it sounds fun...

    Good luck.

    ps - you might also ask this question in this thread: http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=290165&page=157
     
  3. Zandiego

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    I just set up a stereo rig, using (2) Snider heads (one w/reverb) and (2)Dr Z 2x10 cabs. I use the SKB PS-45 pedal board right/left outputs to the amps and it sounds great. The imaging derived from the stereo delays and chorus is the best in my experience. Plus, the separate heads and cabs are all lightweight and easy to tote. The SKB board has it's own filtering and patch bay so on-stage set up is quick and low noise.

    I play my Tele, Strats and PRS Swamp Ash Special through this same setup and they all sound huge. The Snider Chicago head gain/MV is set to just get a little hair on the clean, then I use a Barber LTD for light OD and my Zendrive for more OD, or coupled with the Barber for heavier OD. The Keeley compressor, Line 6 delay and MXR stereo chorus round out the tone.
     
  4. Teleking

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    I have used the two amp setup in the past and it can work well. The only problem is the hassle. Especially when I'm playing a festival or opening for another act and need to setup quickly. I've resorted to one amp and pedals which is easier to deal with. Less to keep up with as well. It's not the optimal arrangement but sometimes a compromise is necessary to make the situation go smoothly. When using two amps, power issues and ground loops can be a constant headache. I found the sound of my amps changed a lot depending on the venue. Sometimes I was very happy and sometimes it was a struggle. YMMV
     
  6. Teleking

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    Never thought about the power issue. Some clubs just don't have the best power sources. Might be an issue.

    I guess I'm looking for answers on things to try with a single amp then? Any ideas? Clean headroom is important for our sound, but I'm also the guy that kicks the joy up a notch when we hit the chorus and I do play some solos, so I really do need a nice overdrive sound. I've tried a ton of pedals, and I'm close with those. Maybe I'll never get there and I should stop the obsessing, but how much fun would that be?
     
  7. thintele

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    65 Amps London ...with the right switch you can run either channel or both ...they say its 18 watts but its a loud 18 watts for sure. Also has a footswitchable boost on the Vox-ish side. It also takes pedals extremely well.
     
  8. lakesider

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    As far as the power issue with the multiple amp rig goes the easiest thing I've found that works is to ground one amp then lift the other amp and your pedalboard too. I've been using various 2 amp rigs for years. I love how they sound. I usually have one a little dirtier than the other. I like how they react differently to the pedals too. I'd never turn one of 'em off though... they both stay on all the time!
     
  9. dB

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    I have a Super Reverb and a Rambler that I run stereo. It's a big, clean sound. Before the Rambler, I had an AST and Super Reverb rig - that was able to get pretty dirty.
     
  10. Teleking

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    My main amp for years was a 66 Super Reverb, and I had it down. I got the nice clean. I had some nice pedals for it. It sounded great, but then I started buying stuff and kept buying and buying. It's like crack, you know?

    Maybe I should just replace the tubes and some lifeless speakers in the Super and give that a whirl. I loved the amp, but the clean got tired, and the sound got tired. Just last weekend I was watching some of the old DVDs we had when i was playing the Super and I think that was the best sound I had compared to others. I was really surprised at how clean it sounded, how country it sounded, and how dirty it could sound all at the same time.

    Maybe my money is better spent just breathing some life back in her. She runs fine, but some new speakers and tubes could be the trick. Last time I plugged it in though I got that ice pick sound and it reminded me why she was retired.

    Any other thoughts are definitely appreciated.
     
  11. dB

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    Another thought is to get a Super-type head with parallel outputs for running two cabs stereo. My Rambler is actually just a head and I have two cabs running parallel. It sounds great. At home I also run the rig with my Super and it is an absolutely huge sound. If Carr didn't agree to make the Rambler head, I would have gotten an Old Flame head w/parallel outs.
     
  12. jakins

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    have you tried a blackface or silverface deluxe reverb with a G12H30 or other efficient speaker? i have a silverface in my studio thats shockingly loud, and having used AC15 type amps (not enough clean) and Ac30 (i use with power scaling) it might be worth trying a good deluxe reverb with an efficient speaker and a few mods to beef it up. oh, and 2 deluxe's is better than 1 :)
     
  13. cg

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    I am going to try a Swart AST with a 2x12 extension cab.
     
  14. buddaman71

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    My good friend, who is a GREAT country and jazz player, has gigged with a Strat/Tele, a mini pedalboard with Boss CS-3 Compressor, SD-1 Super Overdrive and a DD-3 Delay into 2 peavey Classic 30's for many years.

    His tone ALWAYS sounds great and the amps are small, lightweight and have LOTS of headroom.

    Just a thought.

    :AOK
     
  15. Catoogie

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    I use an AC30 CC1 and a Peavey Delta Blues (2x10), I use a Nobels ODR 1 set to just a slight breakup. It sounds natural at any volume.
     
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    I would agree that your money is definitely better spent breathing some life back into that Super. They're excellent amps! I'm in the market for one right now, actually.
     
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    I like a Silverface Twin Reverb with a Master Volume. I use an A/B switch with a Soldano Hot Rod 50 or Marshall JCM 800. Tube Screamer and Bluesbreaker II pedals for OD and Boost.
     
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    I have a 2*12 wired for stereo. I sometimes use 2 heads, one for clean, one for dirt an dirt works well. Only one extra head to lug.
     

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