So there I was. My brand new computer bought "Allensteined" and about to drop the dough on on the Digi 002r and never mess with the Yamaha minidisk 4 track again. I searched long and hard to find which piece would be right for me, and I eventually came to the conclusion of the 002r for a few reasons * built in pres that are supposedly pretty decent as well as converters. * protools LE. Other packages I would have had to buy the hardware, THEN the software on top * compatible formats. In case I wanted to send a track to a guy that would most likely have Pro-Tools he could easily edit it. * I'm attracted to the firewire concept * The rack version because I'm not really an engineer and didn't grow up with the 'feel of a board' so I'll just end up getting a cheaper control later * all of the bundles. That bomb factory, with the Joe Meek and all that good stuff. Very very cool. Then the stupidheads at RME went out and put out the Fireface So I've rethought the issue. I see comparisons of the fireface to a lot of other pieces out there (MOTU, etc) but I haven't seen anyone compare it to the 002r which IMO is surprising (both being firewire based units) or maybe I'm missing something. Perhaps the Fireface is an entirely different thing. Some of the attractions towards this piece are * Satisfaction from prior RME product owners. Great reviews * Built in pres that are supposed to be fantastic * Better A/D D/A converters. * RME's 'steady clock' But obviously missing the features of the factory bundle and the compatible format of pro tools. As you see my dillema....feel free to offer up your opinion based on experience or heresay..I'm not picky or tell me if I'm way off base and these are two completly uncomparable machines. Thanks guys!