Hi-Gain Pedals, Your Advise/opinions?

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by theroan, Apr 4, 2008.

Which of these is best?

  1. MT-2

  2. MT-2 w/ a Mod (Not Keeley)

  3. Metal Muff

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  1. theroan

    theroan Member

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    I have a Mesa F-50 Combo and an Ibanez RGA 121H with an Invaser in the bridge. Currently I use the Metal Zone MT-2 through the clean channel to get that really thrashy, ripping kind of tone for riffing. My only problem is that it lacks some definition. Single note riffs are great and chugging is great but chording just gets lost. So what should I do? The reason I don't use that gain channel is that it lacks the trebly thrash sound I'm looking for.

    Options:
    Keep the metal zone
    Mod the metal zone
    Get a Metal Muff
    Get a treble booster for gain channel

    Thoughts gang?
     
  2. mewithoutlouie

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    I like the crunch box or a big muff variant. The zvex box of metal is definately worth checking out.

    From the choices you gave...perhaps modding the metal zone will do the trick for what you're going for.
     
  3. DocRock

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    None of the above.

    I'd check out a G2D Morpheus and be done with it. Seriously, it does exactly what you are describing, with a built-in, dialable noise gate.

    Doc :)
     
  4. theroan

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    Hmmmm, how much do those typically run for?
     
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    ive never tried any metal zone mods but i have a metal muff and i think it would be a fine choice for what you want. the eq on that pedal is really outstanding IMO, plus its got a footswitchable top boost which would take care of your boost desires. the eq already has plenty of tweakability to give you the treble your looking for though
     
  6. the recluse

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    I actually just sold an MT-2 that I had modded to indyguitarist JCM/Boogie specs. The difference was night and day in favor of the modded version. I would have considered keeping it if I hadn't have built a Dr. Boogey. The mod took a lot of the fizz out of the distortion and the eq was tightened up quite a bit.
     
  7. theroan

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    Ya the mod seems like a good option too!
     
  8. theroan

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    This is going to be hard
     
  9. edwinhong

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    I don't know how much gas ($$$) you have
    most reasonable way is Mod it.
    Montel mod is only about $25.00 & it really give you that definition on the note,
    Or start over with other pedal, since you have F50 it also have good 2nd channel maybe you want something like Crunch Box or tubezone would be a good choice.
    with Metal stuff has more clarity then Boss with out the mod.
     
  10. iamspartacus

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    Unfortunately, the MT2 is not a good pedal, even after modifications. Brian Wampler mentioned once how the design of the MT2 doesn't offer very much room for improvement. I've tried various mods of the MT2, and quite frankly, the high-end, sterile buzziness is still there (just a bit less). I heard somewhere it has something to do with the op-amp in the MT2, which the Monte Allums mods attempt to take care of.
     
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    Thats weird, my F30 can come fairly close to Kill'em all sounds with my telecaster! Either way, you should look into some of the high gain JCM800 types diy pedals. I'll be trying one out soon, from what I've heard they are simple and sound pretty good.

    Or try and find a PP800 I guess....
     
  12. theroan

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    Is the Monte Mod any good?
     
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    I haven't tried the monte mod, but I do know that part of the problem with the metal zone is its terrible op-amp. It's worth a try, if you're into the DIY thing.

    For high gain tones, I love using my plexidrive from Brian Wampler. Just because it's tailored for the plexi sound doesn't mean it has no gain available. It's a fire breather!
     
  16. phyrexia

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    Are you using contour on the F50?

    Have you tried just using an EQ in the loop?

    Worked wonders for me, when I had mine.
     
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    I would get an EQ pedal and run it after the Metal Zone. Boost the bass, scoop the mids, boost the treble. That's exactly the sound you want and the chords will be clear...or, they will be A LOT clearer than they are now. It should do the trick!
     
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    I'm thinking the Metal Muff
     
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    The Nano Pocket Metal Muff is a pretty cool pedal for very little coin...
     

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