High Gain Pedals: Crunch Box or Blackstar?

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  1. FenderGuy53

    FenderGuy53 Member

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    I received my Barber Direct Drive today (and my Carbon Copy should arrive next week).

    Now, I'm looking for a higher gain pedal that will seamlessly complement the DD.

    Which do you think would work better: MI Audio Crunch Box or Subdecay Blackstar? Are there any other viable options?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Pott

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    I'd say the Crunchbox.


    The Blackstar was great, but it has a fuzzy edge. Think Plug in Baby by Muse. It found it didn't do modern high gain as well as I thought because of this. The clips sound a little more modern than I found it.

    It's a great pedal though, cleans up well and heaps of fun!
     
  3. recto-robbie

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    I have both of these pedals on my board. Ive actually considered selling the Black Star but couldnt do it,, now I wont sell it. Its a very unique sounding pedal and very different than the CB. The CB sounds very Marshally to me where I cant really put my finger on the sound of the BS.
    Think OD and fuzz in the same box,, I think thats why people say it has a fuzzy edge to its sound. Eveytime I play the BS for some reason Black Sabbath comes to mind. Anyways if your looking for a straight forward OD or distorsion then I would look into the CB, but if your looking for something different then I would go with the BS. I dont think either of these pedals are voiced right for modern metal,, maybe the CB with a good EQ after it.
     
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    Yep. I A-B'd both extensively and kept the CB. The BS sounded more like a high gain fuzz than distortion unit to my years.


    YMMV.
     
  5. nibus

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    Its really a question of whether you want a high gain Marshall in a box, or a high gain distortion with a fuzzy edge.
     
  6. TX6Strings

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    You also might want to take a look at T-Rex Bloody Mary. There are a few clips on youtube that sound pretty damn good.
     
  7. orogeny

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    my favorite for this vibe is still the cmatmods brownie with fr8_trane mods. same price range as the CB, and i think it has a much better EQ going on.
     
  8. KTT

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    I found the total opposite,the blackstar is my fav gain pedal,it has more gain than the crunchbox and a more natural sounding overdrive IMO i sold the crunch box and kept the blackstar
     
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    Landgraff Mo'D. Period, other stuff is cheap build, or "yawn" over rated. Will rp your head off, or purr like a kitten. It can be set up for Single coils or Humbuckers. John will set it up right.
     
  10. rcl

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    CB seems like a one trick pony to me, but then mine is a little messed up. The other blackstar company-try the HT-Dual. It gives you two options, one lower gain and the other high gain. Nice pedal.
     
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    both are great. i think the CB works really well with black face style amps.
     
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    Tone is very subjective, but I would put Brian Marshall's build quality up against any that I've ever seen. Nothing against Mr. Landgraff, but the idea that higher cost means higher quality is a myth.
     
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    The Blackstar sounds nothing like a Marshall ,nasty fizzy and thin on high gain . It is good for classic rock crunch but don't gain it up.
     
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    Man clearly you've never tried an Mi Audio or Subdecay pedal.

    In regards to tone it really is Marshall in a box vs metally scooped distortion easy to justify having both :dude
     
  15. orogeny

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    a modded rat is actually what stays on my board, despite how much i love the brownie with fr8_trane mods.
     
  16. RockStarNick

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    The CB will provide you with another level of gain, for sure.

    But the problem is that those two pedals :)CB and DD) are voiced kinda differently. Yes, they're both marshall-esque, but next to each other, I dunno...

    Check out this clip:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XYi4sEVrD4

    Next to each other, the DD sounds alot more "pedal" like...
     
  17. KTT

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    If you crank the gain way up on the subdecay blackstar then yes it sounds like fuzz..but only if you crank it way up...keep it at 12 o clock and its way more responsive and amp like than the crunch box IMO...and cleans up really nice
     
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    Sorry to hijack, but does the Freakshow Brown Rabbit fit into this category? That's the high-gain pedal I had my eye on, before I started looking into the CrunchBox. My understanding is the Rabbit is based on the ProCo Rat -- and looks very cool!
     
  19. CJReaper

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    +1!! I had a Barber DDSS and a v1 CB on my board and they do sound very different. While the CB is NOT a scooped sounding pedal, it did sound scooped next to the DDSS. I prefer the tone of the DDSS and if I need more grind I stack it with my Tone Press (set for a slightly compressed boost). Still have my CB and love it though. Regarding the Blackstar, a friend of mine has one of the final prototypes and it sounds much different (and better IMO) than the production pedals. I was going to buy a Blackstar based on the prototype but I really didn't care for the new tone of the final version.

    Cheers,

    CJ
     
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    Have you ever played a Blackstone MOSFET OD? Your description of the Black Star sounds a lot like my Blackstone, maybe with a little lower gain.
     

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