High powered Celestion closest to the Greenback RI?

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  1. papersoul

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    Hey guys,

    Not trying to start an argument, does a speaker exist that is high powered that is similar to the Celestion greenback RI 25? Not the Heritage. The import Reissue is my favorite. I mix those with Lynchbacks in my 412 and love it!!!!

    I want the closest speaker for my 212 cabs so that I could combine with my Lynchbacks.

    Closest I can find is the Creamback M speakers.

    Any thoughts?

    Thanks!
     
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    Creamback M.

    In other brands look at Scumback M75-65W
     
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    I think the V-Type sounds more like the Chinese GB, the Creamback more like the Heritage. Neither sounds or feels just like a GB, though.
     
  5. papersoul

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    Problem I have with the Creamback M is that it reminds me a lot of the Heritage Greenback and I prefer the Greenback RI.
    I will see as I do more testing with the GB M and report back.
     
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    You think the ET65 is like a Greenback??? Not me.
     
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    Yes , with a quad of them broken in and loaded in my 4X12 .
    They wasn't exactly a greenback but pretty damn close once they got broken in and played at gig volumes .
    They seem to have that woody midrange tone with a top end that cuts nice in the mix without being harsh , similar to a greenback imho .
    Maybe they don't like greenbacks in a 1X12 or 2X12 cabinet , never tried them in that setup before .
    We both know nothing will sound exactly like a greenback at higher wattage , you just have to get as close as you can .
     
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    Testing out the M65..tonight.
     
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    Creamback M is maybe the closest in the Celestion lineup, but I still think they're a fair bit different sounding than the Greenback RI's IMO. GB RI is fuzzier/woodier due to earlier breakup, maybe has a tad more bottom end to it also, though not sure why that would be (scratches head...).
     
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    Private Jack is supposed to be voiced like a greenback. I found it close, but a little more spiky in the upper mids.
     
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    Weber Legacy, 65W, 30oz magnet, 75hz cone.
     
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    I reinstalled the Creamback M with my Lynchback in a Stone Age 212 and man I love it. It is the perfect marriage of modern tightness, punch, thick mids, with creamy and woody midrange. I am loving this blend!!! :aok
    Plenty of low end.....this is guitar remember, not bass. :)
     
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    I daresay you're getting that low-end from the design parameters of the cab and/or the Lynchback, as M's alone are pretty darn mid-rangey.
     
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    Well I don't play bass so I wasn't concerned. However, the Creambacks have tons of low end as they were designed to have more than the Lynchback and the Lynch has more than enough low end.
     
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    The G12-65M is working out so well. I notice a creaminess I didn't notice with my WGS speaker. These speakers make me want to play lead, where the WGS Retro/ET65 didn't make me feel that way. Real thick and creamy now, yet tight!
     
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    Thick and creamy would not be what i call closest to a Greenback speaker at a higher wattage .
    A Greenback is woody with that midrange bark and definitely not thick imho .
     
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    Well, what would you consider thick and creamy for high wattage speakers?

    With my Bogner Shiva which is already thick and creamy on the Vintage gain setting.....it is nice and thick and I find leads to be creamy too. :)
    What can I tell ya. :)
     
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    I too like the RI Greenback. Great speaker. I like the old Pre Rolas usually but in some applications the RI is just right. Dunno of anything high powered that sounds just like one but I do know in an amp I have I didn't like anything but the RI including a Pre Rola M, Warehouse Green Beret, Scumback H75LD, except for a Scumback M75 which is in there now.
     
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    Based on players I see with that amp (and a great one too!!), I would have to agree.
     

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