Hired Guns on Amazon

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  1. John Hurtt

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    I've gotten that same vibe from him as well.
     
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    How do you make "proper" studio coffee?
     
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    Make it Irish?
     
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  4. Marshall_Stack

    Marshall_Stack Lordy Mama light my fuse Silver Supporting Member

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    Good luck stormin the castle!
    Make it hurt.
     
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    It was interesting to watch. But I felt like they sifted through a ton of interviews and footage just to edit together the worst, most juicy 10% of it all, with the purpose of painting some nasty pictures. That's the point, I get it, but I still didn't like that about it. And I can't stick up for Billy Joel, but I'd still like to hear his side of it, if he even has one. I had a friend in college in the late 90's who was nuts for Joel, and she went to his spoken word tour and said Lib came out and joined in for part of it, so they couldn't have been TOO nasty, right? I'll have to ask her about that.
     
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    The band didn't become Night Ranger until 1982 and Brad was established with them, but they were hardly a name at all. He was definitely a hired gun for Ozzy...as all of his guitarists are...and might have gone farther with him had he not chosen to return to NR. No one knew that NR would become so huge until after the fact, but that doesn't take away from Brad's short stint as a hired gun.
    Lukather is with the massively popular Toto, but his role as a hired gun isn't diminished at all by it.
     
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    eh, judging by his personality, I'm not sure I would have ever hired him full time...
     
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    Yep. A lot of great players have their feet firmly glued in one spot and stare at the neck of their guitar all night. That doesn't get a crowd off.
     
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    It was a fun, interesting movie. But, it seemed a little "thin". A few people had a sentence or two to say and then we never heard from them again. I'd like to see some of the things that got edited.
     
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    I watched it last night.
    I would agree with this.
    It did seem a bit too metal/rawk-centric.

    Alice Cooper seems to have his head screwed on straight and appreciates what he has, and his place.

    Instead of so much Ozzy/QR from Rudy, I would have preferred more Kenny A and yeah, guys like Vinnie C and Omar Hakim.

    Billy Joel?
    There was a quick reference to points on the records being eliminated. That was a hell of a thing.
    And yeah, he handled it very, very badly.
    I liked Lib’s comment that you’re never fired, you’re just not asked to do the next thing.

    Posts here have likened it to 20 Feet or The Wrecking Crew.
    I think a closer parallel would be Standing In the Shadows of Motown.
     
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    I just took it to portray a more extreme situation of a sideman - one that has to step in to fill a very well known and beloved player, and on top of that, one that had just tragically died. Showing the additional pressure of big time show, no time to learn the songs and gel with the band, and negative attitude from the fans initially. Very tough, I'd imagine.
     
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    I was thinking the same thing. He's a phenomenal guitar player and has played with Chris Cornell and Melissa Ethridge. Yet, most average music listeners probably have no clue who he is.
     
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    I have the utmost respect and admiration for Pete aka @sinasl1

    But the more interesting story to me would be John Shanks.
    He went from ME-sideman to songwriter for some pop acts to producing the last VH record.

    And I seem to recall he has an R9/Historic burst named after him.
    That’s gotta earn him some real points here.
     
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    Good point. Maybe they didn't want to have 2 current Bon Jovi guitar players? Not sure. Fantastic player though as well. I guess they could have picked a bunch of players but had to narrow it down somehow.
     
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    I was very put off by him. He painted Cliff as this genius and then went on to talk about how he replaced him. Maybe he meant it as humble but, it came off like bragging. Plus, no offence to the metal guys here but, I dont see playing bass in metallica as the same pinnacle of basshood that Newsted seems to think it is.
     
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    Joel seemed to be badly portrayed in general. Even the interview clips seemed to be carefully chosen to make him look sleazey. Not defending him but, it didnt seem unbiased.

    Arent you guys all glad you got "real" jobs?
     
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    I mean, in a way I am, but I had a couple shots that I do wish would have worked out. It wouldn't have been fame or glory or any of that, but there are two bands I had a shot at joining almost 10 years ago that are still playing music for a living to this day.
     
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    I was never really "good enough". But my family life is really good. I could not imagine what the turmoil and chaos of road life mixed with massive job insecurity would have done to my family.
     
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    I think it was a bigger deal to Newstead because he was a massive fan of the band before getting the opportunity to join.
     
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    Good luck stormin the castle!
    Yeah - I thought he seemed OK considering the mess when he left, rehab, wanting to do his own project, yadda yadda.
    Seems like they are cool with each other - the rnr hall induction, playing a few shows.
    I guess what I'm saying is it definitely could be a lot worse.
     
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