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Discussion in 'The Pub' started by pedalcr8z, Mar 18, 2019.
That was a hell of an airline disaster.
...basically trying to control and land a heavy in 3 dimensions with throttles alone iirc
I remember watching the videos of that landing - amazing!
It just keeps getting worse for Boeing...
From Reuters reporting on the same discovery:
In an instant messaging exchange on Feb. 8, 2018 - when the plane was in the air and eight months before the first of two fatal crashes, an employee asks another: “Would you put your family on a MAX simulator trained aircraft? I wouldn’t”.
The second employee responds: “No”..........
“I want to stress the importance of holding firm that there will not be any type of simulator training required to transition from NG to MAX,” Boeing’s 737 chief technical pilot said in a March 2017 email.
“Boeing will not allow that to happen. We’ll go face to face with any regulator who tries to make that a requirement.”.....
In other emails and instant messages, employees spoke of their frustration with the company’s culture, complaining about the drive to find the cheapest suppliers and “impossible schedules”.
“I don’t know how to fix these things...it’s systemic. It’s culture. It’s the fact we have a senior leadership team that understand very little about the business and yet are driving us to certain objectives,” said an employee in an email dated June 2018.
And in a May 2018 message, an unnamed Boeing employee said: “I still haven’t been forgiven by god for the covering up I did last year.”
Without referencing what was covered up, the employee added: “Cant do it one more time. the Pearly gates will be closed...”
You could find employees who would say things like that at any large firm (and many small ones too).
...few firms in whose hands you trust your life.
One of the stock retorts from the dbags destroying QC where I work is "no one's life depends on this thing".
My reply is "We broke into medical equipment over a decade ago!!".
How long before one of these clowns moves on to a position that does affect people's safety?
We took a tour of the Boeing factory in Washington last May. While I was amazed at the size and scope of the factory floor, I was puzzled by how little was going on down below us. No Rosie the Riveter at work. Just a bunch of people walking around unsupervised.
Disgusting. Not at all surprising in this hyper-capitalistic culture, though, unfortunately. Money money money.
That’s your take on this and a shrug? Pathetic.
I've worked for firms that fit that description - and yes, things like that are said by their employees too. C'mon, it's human nature to think that most all of the management ranks are populated by morons...
Yes, it's my take on this particular aspect of the situation. And there's nothing pathetic about it - if you're so inclined, you can read my criticisms of Boeing in previous posts within this thread.
It's the noticeable actions which support the claims becomes apparent.